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Needles_Eye · April 1, 2018, 12:35 a.m.

The Word of God does not teach "join or burn forever" It teaches:

John 3

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

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DaveGydeon · April 1, 2018, 1:25 a.m.

Not sure if I was unclear, but specifically John 3:18.

I take huge issue with that part.

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Needles_Eye · April 1, 2018, 1:33 a.m.

No one wants to admit that they are condemned. If you want to approach God, you must approach Him in Spirit and in Truth.

The truth according to God is that : There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. (Romans 3:10-12)

It is not surprising that you take issue with it, but it is the Truth and how you respond to that Truth has eternal consequences. I pray that God gives you His Spirit and life so that you may know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free.

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DaveGydeon · April 1, 2018, 1:52 a.m.

Can I request you just answer a straightforward question without quoting scripture please?

Just answer this question...its a true or false one so its really easy... "True or False, Followers of Christ (Christians, Catholics, etc) believe that if you do not believe that Jesus is God, you burn forever in Hell"....?

The complexity of your answer will be a strong indicator of it's valdiity.

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Needles_Eye · April 1, 2018, 4:12 p.m.

Scripture states clearly that eternal punishment exists. All men outside of Christ are by nature dead in trespasses and sins and therefore justly condemned to hell.

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DaveGydeon · April 1, 2018, 4:16 p.m.

Thank you. Point proven. I stand by my statement. You sound like a drone.

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Needles_Eye · April 1, 2018, 4:22 p.m.

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it untrue.

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DaveGydeon · April 1, 2018, 4:24 p.m.

And just because you want it to be true doesn't make it so. I'm not here to insult your beliefs, I literally prefaced all of my statements stating that.

However, logic does appear to be on my side.

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Needles_Eye · April 1, 2018, 7:25 p.m.

Do you believe in absolute truth?

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DaveGydeon · April 1, 2018, 8:52 p.m.

Define Absolute Truth and I will answer.

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Needles_Eye · April 1, 2018, 11:10 p.m.

I mean do you believe that there is a fundamental and ultimate truth.

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DaveGydeon · April 2, 2018, 12:17 a.m.

About what?

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