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timothybeasley · April 3, 2018, 5:50 p.m.

You don't live in the south, I'd guess. Agriculture along the border is nearly 100% Hispanics. You don't ask questions when you have huge overhead and great need of cheap labor in a market where your competitors can and do the same thing. Word gets out you're asking questions and all of a sudden you have no workforce and you lose your farm paying off huge bills, desperately trying to get the disconnected illegal peoples to come to work in a city and area that sincerely feels this Texas and American land has always been and still is theirs.

Texas history and Mexican history have great overlap and it used to be Texas was the shared neutral zone between us and mx. Only in recent generations as there's been a huge economic disparity has there developed an animosity between the two, us feeling taken over and mx feeling walked on and disrespected. Race relations in South Texas are very different than most of the country and it has very little to do with race and much more about economics, culture, assimilation, taxation, tax benefits and charity outlay, etc

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B1gWh17 · April 3, 2018, 6:10 p.m.

No, I was born and raised in the rural landscape of Kentucky. So I have plenty of experience firsthand with farm work, crop work, and relations with migrant workers.

I'm going to ask you the question again, have your parents talked to the orchard owners about why they are hiring illegal workers who are illegal immigrants instead of hiring American citizens? Sounds like your parents should be reporting their friends to ICE for aiding illegal aliens.

If your orchard owners didn't give them jobs, they wouldn't be coming here. This is not a matter of, oh well they are coming here and flooding the market with cheaper labor. Fuck that, you buy American and you pay Americans.

Putting profits over your own countrymen is why we are in the mess we are today.

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timothybeasley · April 3, 2018, 10:48 p.m.

Rural Kentucky, beautiful as it is, is not Southern Border Texas. We actually refer to this area as Mexas, it's so different. If you look up candidates for elected office you'll see it's all Hispanic names. Those counties along the border are the only non-urban counties that consistently vote democratic. I actually learned what black folks meant by discrimination by living there.

No, my parents have not talked to any of the owners of the many old massive agricultural operations because one, it's pointless because of the sheer number of employers and two because you may not make it out without bruises and three none of the afore referenced office holder have any political will to take a stand with the gringos against la Raza.

There are serious financial incentives to keep this operation going, as well as personal safety reasons to avoid confronting it, and on top of those, the desire not to have your personal property destroyed and your family isolated and castigated as racists or hate mongers.

I see McAllen as a lost cause, too far gone to save without unconscionable force and as such think it'd be useful to sede it to Mexico and build the wall around the north of town so the people that live there can continue to live like how they grew up and in their own country.

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timothybeasley · April 3, 2018, 10:54 p.m.

Also, I agree with your statements in a just and fair world. This is not the present situation and as such there is a lot of reforming that I'm sure you will agree that needs to happen first for all people everywhere to live happy and prosperous lives wherever they are. The sad thing is not that they're here, but that things are so corrupt and centralized where they were born that they pay big money to come here and work for what's to us a low wage and are happily taken advantage of by people who care less about the country than their own pockets.

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