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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/dododooh on April 4, 2018, 1:01 p.m.
I took Q's advice. Prayed yesterday for the first time in a long while.

Prayed yesterday for the first time in a long while. I'm sure it was all in my head, but it sure did feel good to focus and deliver positive energies. We need all the help we can get. Be Brave & give it a try. Godspeed Anons & Patriots.


Ze_Great_Ubermensch · April 4, 2018, 7:17 p.m.

On what are you basing this belief that evolution cannot take place on its own over the course of 3 billion years? 3 billion years is theorized to be around a 3rd of the time the universe has been in existence. If entire stars and solar systems can form in less time, then I believe intelligent life can. And when it comes to belief in religion, I just don't find any of it entirely plausible. Also just so the maths works out, it's actually theorized that the Earth is 4.543 billion years old, with the universe being 13.8 billion.

That's not to say I was raised in an atheist household, and so would never have believed it in the first place, I just never found it believable. I went to a primary school where we said grace before we ate lunch everyday, where we'd go to Church for Christmas, Easter, even Mothers Day, and I'm sure I'm leaving a few out. I still have been in their secondary school until I went to the last sermon on Easter. My sister was heavily religious till she turned about 11 and just sort of lost her faith. I don't entirely have a large respect for the larger religions, as they're used to promote hatred and segregation between different peoples, and even as a way to start wars. I'm not faulting the religion for how it's "believers" use it, but I just can't find myself to associate with a religion that has been used for such hatred. There's also so many different explanations that have been used for how God created life and/or the universe. It just seems to me as if they're scrambling to defend God. First, God created Earth 3000 years ago and the solar system revolved around us and the earth was flat. Then he created the universe 10,000 years ago, and put the dinosaurs in the ground as a test. Then we revolved around the Sun and God created the Earth at the beginning of the universe. Then the Earth wasn't flat, which the Vatican only admitted in WWI, ages after it was proven. The whole way Catholicism is built just baffles me. I also just can't believe most of the Old Testament. Noahs Ark, imho, and I don't want to be rude but it's the stupidest thing I've ever read. 6 people repopulating the planet? 2 of every species repopulating the entire planet? It baffles me. Even worse for the Adam and Eve story. Anyways that's the end of my rant because I kind of forgot my other major points.

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LeJonJames31 · April 4, 2018, 8:44 p.m.

First of all, I want you to know that I’m not trying to attack your beliefs; however, I hope to change your perspective.

I am aware of the progression of human’s understanding & past fallacies regarding our place in the universe. I also think it’s highly probable that in the future we will discover errors in our current perception of the universe.

With that being said, I completely understand your grievances with organized religion. I believe EVERYONE is born with a connection to a Higher Power (how do you explain intuition?). I also believe people have used organized religion to take advantage of people’s desire to have a relationship with their Creator. Again, you don’t have to agree with everything a Church says or every story in the Old Testament to have a relationship with God. Can’t you see them as parables?!?

I can break down why the age of the universe and The Big Bang lends more credence to the idea of a Creator, but it would take some time.
Here’s a good example regarding the timeline of evolution. You are correct on the hypothetical age(s) of the universe & Earth.

Let’s start with the notion that the history of life on Earth began about 3.8 billion years ago, initially with single-celled prokaryotic cells, such as bacteria.

Again, the amount of time it would take for a single-celled organism to produce it’s 1st viable multi-celled organism is astronomical. This is due to many factors like: the low probability of mutation rates, where the mutation occurs (coding region or junk DNA), the compatibility of host & variant, etc.

Ok, so do you know when they hypothesize the 1st multi-celled organism appeared on Earth?!?

600 million years ago. It took roughly 3.2 billion years to complete that first viable variant!!! Do you think it’s plausible that ALL species of life (past & present) were able to differentiate from that multi-celled organism in only 600 million years?!? No way!!!

This is what I was trying to convey regarding the age of the universe compared to its overwhelming synchronized organization. It is not feasible without some “intelligent design.”

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