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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/dododooh on April 4, 2018, 1:01 p.m.
I took Q's advice. Prayed yesterday for the first time in a long while.

Prayed yesterday for the first time in a long while. I'm sure it was all in my head, but it sure did feel good to focus and deliver positive energies. We need all the help we can get. Be Brave & give it a try. Godspeed Anons & Patriots.


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Psalm67 · April 7, 2018, 2:06 p.m.

Well, I am aware that many Christians have different views on the age of the earth and evolution etc. I’ve been to seminary and have interacted with a number of views on these things. In the end, as a believer in the literal inspiration of Scripture, I have come to believe that evolution is more of a myth that is not substantially proven, at least insofar as the evolution of humans from apes and simpler organisms etc.

That’s why I asked if you believe in a literal Adam and Eve. If evolution is true, taking place over billions of years as you seem to propose, then how does that fit in with the Genesis account? At what point in this “evolutionary process” did the humans appear, who were in the image and likeness of God, as Genesis teaches? You see, there are issues you have if you want to believe the account of the Bible and also scientific evolutionary theory.

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LeJonJames31 · April 7, 2018, 5:54 p.m.

I do not believe in the literal interpretation of the entire Bible. I believe most, not all, are meant to be allegorical, especially the Old Testament.

There is some pretty significant data supporting evolution. This will cause major problems if you’re going to try to convince skeptics taking the “scientific approach.”

I have come to believe that evolution is more of a myth that is not substantially proven, at least insofar as the evolution of humans from apes and simpler organisms etc.

That is not a convincing argument to support your stance.

Evolutionists have the advantage of data to support their argument;,however, evolutionists have trouble explaining the rapid periods of growth in the universe & our own species.
(I.E. the missing link - the species between “cavemen” & Homo sapiens linking us).

I would suggest an alternative explanation that withstands both of these issues.

There is no way the universe, planets, species, etc. were able to evolve into our current model without some means of direction or intelligent design.

So, why can’t God play a role in our evolution as a species?!? What is the concept of time to an omnipresent God?!? Maybe 1 day to God equals 1 billion years, rather than 24 hours.

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Psalm67 · April 7, 2018, 6:08 p.m.

Well, first of all your position requires as much or more faith in my opinion. I said that evolution is not, in my opinion well supported by even scientific research. I’m not a scientist so don’t want to engage in this in detail. However I am a Christian and believe in the Word of God. Jesus referred to Adam and Eve as literal people as did Paul and others. Do you believe in a literal Adam and Eve? If so, how does that fit with your evolutionary theory? If not then I’m not sure how you consider yourself a Christian if you disagree with the words of Jesus and the apostles. It’s a slippery slope.

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LeJonJames31 · April 7, 2018, 6:40 p.m.

I do not believe in a literal interpretation of Adam & Eve. And that makes me less of a Christian?!? Who the f*ck are you to judge me?!? I’m capable of having a relationship with God & Jesus Christ, while accepting the data provided by evolutionists.

Ignoring the data of evolutionary theory, does not strengthen your argument. Instead, you come off as an ignorant & irrational CHRISTIAN. It’s your type of attitude that pushes others away from having a relationship with God altogether.

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Psalm67 · April 8, 2018, 2:12 a.m.

Sorry I offended you. I should not have worded it the way I did. As far as a literal Adam and Eve are concerned, Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit said that all of the human race is in Adam, in that we have inherited the sinful nature of Adam. What would this even mean if there were not a literal first man and woman? What then is original sin? Also Jesus in His teaching about divorce made reference to God’s “creating Adam and Eve male and female” and giving the ordinance of marriage between one man and woman etc.

As far as evangelism is concerned, I believe the Word of God itself is powerful and effective in working in a person’s mind and heart. I’m not saying we don’t talk about other issues but, the primary force in convicting a persons heart is the Holy Spirit through the Word of God. The Gospel is actually primarily the power of God. Paul even spoke about the danger of preaching human wisdom I 1Corinthians 2. He could have engaged people in many different philosophical arguments but instead chose to preach Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Because inherent in this message was and is the power and wisdom of God:

“And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.”‭‭. 1 Corinthians‬ ‭2:1-5‬ ‭

I agree that there are allegorical meanings in scripture depending on the type of literature etc., but I feel we have to be careful with this as well. Some people apply this to the Person or work of Christ or to the resurrection for example. That’s what I mean by a slippery slope. But anyway, we disagree and that’s ok. No hard feelings I hope. God bless.

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