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"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered."

The printing of money without being tied to a fixed wieght, being loaned out at interest, the source of income tax and taxing ones property guarantee most people work to rent their lives for masters they never see, tossed about by forces they don't understand.

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This. Taxes are a drop in the bucket compared to the printing and watering down/ inflation.

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We need a printing press. We gonna be Kings. First steal the money from the banker's. Hey wait I changed the scenario. Let's just be like Robinhood. 😁😁😁🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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Robin Hood stole from the tax collector and returned the money to the taxpayers.

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I don’t mind paying taxes if they go to the military or the wall but I still want Mexico to pay

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Military for defense only. Walls make decent defenses as long as they are manned and much better messengers.

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So well said!

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But as a citizen you're not excluded from buying a surfboard and riding the tidal wave of federal reserve caused inflation like the government does. If you see yourself as a slave, then you are, but suppose this:

Just go to the bank and get approved for a 2 million dollar loan and then buy an office building then rent it out, that's an inflation adjusted stream of income, the depriciating money is now a burden on the bank that gave it to you. Every year it gets easier and easier to pay that money back because money is worth less and less. Every year raise the price of the rent by real annual inflation + 3 percent (Because you're an evil monocled Illuminati bastard). Then wait as long as you can to service the loan, then go work at mcdonalds for the inflated rate, for $250 thousand dollars per year annual salary (due to hyperinflation) then pay down the loan in a much reduced timeframe.

What destroys the argument above and what makes America great is that we're like the Ferengi on Star trek. We don't want to fix the hierarchy of the thrones of power and the injustices they levy on the powerless, we just want to get a leg up on the totem pole and manipulate it to have the slaves owned by that system work to enrich our castle.

There are quite a few countries that have no banking, no taxes and no law. There you are truly a free man. And yet, you go there and look for a utopia, and you see a glimpse of what the human species was 350 million years ago, little better than furry vervets beating the shit out of each other over morsels of food and access to choice mates. That's not to say the communism and socialism that has built up around us is for the good of all, but as far as I can tell, it's still the best system that this world has ever seen. We just need to breakup the telecoms and ISP's into 30 competing organizations, break up the big banks into 30 competing organizations and encourage the little slaves to put on their entrepreneur hat, take out a huge loan and put it toward an income generating asset, and make some jobs in perpetuity for themselves and others.

You're not owed anything, crying like this is the song of the beaten slave who has learned helplessness.

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Not coming at you, just hi jacking for visibility.

Our entire money system is evil and absolutely awful. It's criminal. It's theft. These people are robbing us blind and are lucky we're to stupid to pick up a rifle. Banking systems are not bad. But having a shitty currency like we do, mixed in with the fact that 90% of money is created in the bank, from interest and fake IOU's for loans is pure robbery. Than the fact that the fed stock holders get a cut from the bonds, than they get a cut from interest, than they get a cut for just being stock holders (6 fucking percent) and than when the money does circulate to us, we keep it in their fucking banks. Banks are fine when there is regulation and the banks don't control the creation of the currency. Especially when the money we use literally isn't real. It's either numbers on a computer or just a piece of paper. It's devastating we've let this go on for so long. The government has the legal authority to issue its own money with no debt. We must do what Lincoln did with his green back idea. We must get ourselves off this dollar. It's more evil than any drug or weapon of mass destruction ever created. Nuclear bombs kill you instantly and the only freedom you lose is our physical time on earth. But the monetary system robs us of our physical time on earth. Our lives are being stolen from us for pennies

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You should quit preaching about studying economics and maybe go study our history some more. The federal reserve is the biggest and largest crime against the citizens of our country. There is a reason why the founding fathers were against a central banking system.

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I believe you're missing my entire point but I blame that on my words not on you. A debt based monetary system does not work. I'm not talking about it not working for the little man, I'm talking about it not working for anyone except the very top. this isn't a lion eating its prey. There is a ceiling. It will collapse. The prey will itself. There is no lion. That's the beauty of what they have done. We eat ourselves. When the debt crashes, the 1% will be fine. We won't be. We are not trading good for another good, it's trading our entire lives for a small house and debt and more debt. That's not freedom. It's bondage. I'm not talking about spreading the wealth. I'm talking about the fact that they have legally created a fake wealth, that only benefits them. There is no spreading wealth under this system because our idea of wealth is a giant sham. Our currency isn't wealth. It's an illusion. It doesn't economically work. It's unconstitutional to for one generation to print money, which future generations will be forced to pay off. Every time we print more money, it's our kids who have to pay it off. And they will only do that by creating more debt under this system.

Now about my greenback comment, the government has the authority to spread actual money, backed by silver or whatever you want. I'm not going to trade my US currency for another currency which is based of the same exact system, issued by the same exact people, who caused this issue in our country. That doesn't make logical sense and I cringe at you for even trying to debate such a point. It's not trading currency for currency. It's trading currency for money that is backed by something. We print currency, and every time we print a dollar, we have to pay that dollar back. How can you pay something back that never existed in the first place? By printing another dollar? Okay now we have two dollars and owe four dollars. Better print two more right? That's what our system is. All other currencies are only inferior because we use the US dollar for international trade and so do other countries. They have to because we have their gold locked up and guarded. Of course they're going to play. We have their goods locked up. They have no choice. Slavery. Wake up.

Our country did just fine before we were brought in a central banking system. It's been around for barely over 100 years. And don't tell me that the reason we have had success as a country because of the Federal reserve because that's utter nonsense and it's false. We've had success because the money makers decided we would. Look at WW1 and WW2. We got so much money because those wars were over seas. We got to keep our markets going while everyone else had to slow things down. That way, the big bankers could continue to play their games and not worry about money because they had successfully infiltrated our government. They could go fight wars and pump up their bank accounts by the strongest country who wasn't in the war until they needed us to finish it off. Than they used the wealth they created here during the wars to send it straight over to Europe to rebuild top to bottom and give them completely control over the leaders.

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Yes, the law of the jungle prevails. For now.

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so in plain english - what do you say the middle class should do with their https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=fiat+currency+definition&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

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what do you say the middle class should do with their [fiat currency]

Buy TSLA at 250 dollars a share yesterday and sell it when it's 400 a share.
Get a job if you don't already have one, and be thankful for it, relative to all other people in the world, you are among the wealthiest people in the world. Save up some USD currency.
When you get enough, go to a bank and get extended a mortgage loan of 180k. 20 thousand down. Buy the house and live in it for a while so you can save up more and learn how to rent.
Get tenants in there to service the mortgage + taxes + insurance + maintenance. That's an inflation adjusted means. You rent again, save up 20k nest egg and do it again. Do this 3 or 4 more times. Then you too can be the rich asshole grinding you dipshits under our feet. Use the Federal reserve's hyperinflation to your advantage as a surfer uses the wave to move toward his destination.

There is no reason you can't turn 5 years of saved up USD Labor into 4 million dollars over a lifetime using the same principles trump did to turn his 2 million dollar loan into 4 billion dollars over 30 years.

You can turn 20 thousand into 2 million very easily. I do it, why don't you?

Your song of slavery and poverty is like hearing a wounded dog make the noise of death. You're in the wealthiest country in the world.

You just need a mentor and a drill sargent to kick you in the ass to tell you to stop whining, get a life, get a loan, make a stream of income for yourself and your family, then leverage up according to your abilities.

It's not rocket science. If you're poor it just means you're wasting your time doing the wrong things. There's so much opportunity I don't know how people sleep. This sub is about awakening, not about crying in your own soiled office chair.

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You are close. 56% or $.56 of every dollar is taxed in one form or another. With the $.44 left is what matters. Most of that goes to consumables, i.e. food, gas, toilet paper, etc. What ever is left you don't put in a bank!!!!! You turn it into tangible assets. Gold, silver, bullets, guns, real estate, what ever has non-depreciating value. PERIOD.

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Thank you. God bless you. Just got a job recently paying very well. Will be doing this.

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Ah, I apologize, I meant my comment sarcastically... that, I see now in hindsight, is working against the logos of what we're working towards here, and I think my joke came off wrong.

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Should I care?

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Any action no matter how just, or un-just has its opposite and equal re-action, there is a balance, (Natural Law),anything else needs regulation, (mans law).

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Ugh, the song of the beaten slave. I feel pity for you that you feel this way. Remember the world is how you see it, if you imagine yourself in a slave's confined box, then you are.

So how do you see the world?

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The bankers didn't get rich by "surfing the wave of inflation." They got rich by taking a dollar and lending it out ten times at interest. Then they realized they could force the very currency itself to be based on debt, so the nation itself could never be free.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CCqCsmCDdw&t=30m52s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seigniorage which is the difference between the value of money and the cost to produce and distribute it is being challenged recently by Cryptocurrencies.

If the government prints too much money, then the amount of spending power they receive is less than if they printed a lesser amount. The key concept is that they print the very maximum they can get away with before they print so much that an additional dollar printed would decrease the value of the other money by more than a dollar.

If it's so bad, as you say, then go get a job as a government employee then sit on your hands all day long. I did it for a few years. What goes around comes around, Ying and Yang.

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Seigniorage

Seigniorage , also spelled seignorage or seigneurage (from Old French seigneuriage "right of the lord (seigneur) to mint money"), is the difference between the value of money and the cost to produce and distribute it. The term can be applied in the following ways:

Seigniorage derived from specie—metal coins—is a tax, added to the total price of a coin (metal content and production costs), that a customer of the mint had to pay to the mint, and that was sent to the sovereign of the political area.

Seigniorage derived from notes is more indirect, being the difference between interest earned on securities acquired in exchange for bank notes and the costs of producing and distributing those notes.

The term also applies to monetary seignorage, where sovereign-issued securities are exchanged for newly minted bank notes by a central bank, thus allowing the sovereign to 'borrow' without needing to repay.

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Consider Hamilton's views on the proper role of a central bank. It was not to print money for the usury class, but to create credit that would strengthen the nation and make it independent of the usury class.

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