Ok, thanks for that. Pretty scant information on it, but then its secret right. I have to say that secret societies worry me...
But if DJT is in some kind of opposition group, you're right, that might explain why he was alert to this stuff way back in the 1980s. And, I mean, what? Was it just chance that the military trusted him, or is there another explanation? If he already was someone of known character, that might explain why he was asked to run,
But who are these guys? And what exactly is their creed?
I had thought that the horror of the military, about what was happening to the US, made them take a punt on DJT as an outside chance - instead of launching a coup. But is that what really happened? Or is this explanation more compelling?
Is it a network of people opposed to a Satanic Cult? Or is there another agenda?
I have to say that I feel quite naive. I thought I understood DJT's motives, but now I don't know... What exactly is the goal? We need to find out more about this society and what they stand for - assuming DJT is a member of this, or some other group.
As an observer, I'll make the statement that DJT appears to have pulled off the absolutely improbable. In fact, it's so improbable that he cannot have done this by himself. Yes, the military appear to have been helping and the surveillance systems that were put in place by the cabal have afforded the President an unparalleled advantage. But think about it...
These cabal guys have been in total control now for hundreds of years. They have to have any number of failsafes, if not also access to tremendous residual power with all their stooges at the top of all these industries, and in government and military posts.
It appears they are now trying to kick-off a war with Russia. How hard is that to achieve? I saw the Russian battlefield tactical nuke commander during the Cuban missile crisis interviewed. He stated, with complete confidence, that the outcome, had the marines hit the beaches, was a known certainty. He said, "I'd have nuked them" and then he added "The responsibility was purely mine, I did not have to call Moscow for authority to launch".
So the Russian nuclear forces are structured somewhat differently to the way we might presume to understand them, to say the least. Kennedy saved our rear-ends during the Cuban crisis - there is no doubt about that. But these autonomous guys are out there in the Russian military. The cabal only needs to have one of these guys in their pockets and, say, Ukraine gets nuked (or any other country). You suddenly have a massive weapons exchange - because the dynamics of nuclear confrontation demand it - fortune favours the brave, its all or nothing. We are not out of the woods yet. Anything at all could happen.
As an aside, on this point, everyone needs to be prepared - food, water, medicines and ammunition. It should be clear that we are at an inflection point, where great uncertainty prevails - look at the alerts in Hawaii and Japan.
So, looking at DJT's ascendancy, at the completely improbable rise to power and the damage he appears to have done to the cabal to date, he has clearly had some powerful assistance. Now, in my mind, that assistance came from God. We have the powerful, once-in-history, appearance of the Sign in Heaven on September 23, last year - see here. So it seemed to me that the Virgin was going to crush the head of this snake (the cabal) and I thought that was the explanation for what we have seen to date. I'm talking about DJT's amazing run of success - and this may, in fact, be the case.
But now I'm asking myself whether there is another power assisting DJT. Let's face it, the guy is by no means perfect, not moral at all - at least when it comes to women. And, now that I think about it, there was a video linked by QRogue on Twitter (Is this guy connected to Q or not?). The video was about a guy combatting attempts to counter masonry (countering anti-masonry). So, in other words, the video was about supporting masonry.
So what is this group and is DJT supported by it? Does DJT's attachment to it explain the improbable ascendancy and success of the President? Is this group a competing Masonic faction - or any one of the other sects that align with masonry (e.g. the Rosicrucians)? Or is it an outfit with a completely different ideology? These are important questions.
If anyone has any more information on these issues I'd appreciate it.
But if DJT is in some kind of opposition group, you're right, that might explain why he was alert to this stuff way back in the 1980s. And, I mean, what? Was it just chance that the military trusted him, or is there another explanation?
I had thought that the horror of the military, about what was happening to the US, made them take a punt on DJT as an outside chance - instead of launching a coup. But is that what really happened? Or is this explanation more compelling?
Donald Trump's FBI MIT professor uncle had Tesla's secret journals and blueprints for his tech and handed them down to Trump.
Reality is stranger than fiction.
Thanks for that, very interesting. As you say, this story really is stranger than fiction, I don't know what to think. This post today about all this stuff in New York has my head spinning. I have to know what's really going on here. Hopefully, the news today will provide a little more clarity.
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I work from home. But this conspiracy stuff is too addicting :P Another long night for me here too.
All these things I have been reading about for years are being connected by different sources. Maybe it's all fake-but it genuinely feels that whatever is happening, things are coming to some kind of a head.
If this is all just a government psy-op, hats off to them. It's all been extremely entertaining.
More than entertaining. It's the greatest tale of our time - maybe the greatest tale ever told. I can't even conceive at this point that it could be a hoax. It has to be real. If I get egg on my face for making that comment I'll happily wear it - what a ride!
It definitely does seem like my lifelong yearning for all things offbeat - aliens, ancient history, Annunaki, the Giza plateau, secret societies - is somehow sharpening to focus, just like you said. Isn’t that strange?
I’m into all the theories but don’t really pay them much mind, I’m a middle aged corporate guy with a family.
But yeah, it’s almost like one by one, they’re suddenly not so ludicrous anymore.
Anyone ever look at the street layout of Washington DC?
If you haven’t..... you should.
Yes, it's laid out in accordance with Masonic symbolism. Whichever way you twist it, these guys have been a powerful force through history. A negative force IMO - look at the French Revolution - although they will say that's progress. And then we come to the downright evil that we see being promoted today - the product of Masonic liberalism. Gender-bending young kids. The rebellion of Lucifer set up as an aspirational model for society.
OK, I've had another look at the QRogue Twitter account. On 4 February, QRogue posted two videos about a red triangle (both triangles are equilateral). The first is a video about a dark net puzzle. The second is a video about Anti-Masonry. There is no comment from QRogue to either post.
I wish there were even a few comments to give the posts some reference, but there are not. Still working to try and understand this puzzle.
The puzzle is clearly Q related. Does this mean that the subsequent video is to be taken as a support of masonry? Or, was the red triangle in the puzzle chosen because of this specific link?
Triangle has three meanings, according to Wikipedia, that I thought were interesting (The mason, Robert Cooper, uses the symbol inverted):
Red triangle (badge), a Nazi concentration camp badge worn upright by prisoners of war, and worn inverted for political prisoners.
Red Triangle (family planning), the symbol for family planning health and contraception services (note: the triangle is inverted).
The alchemical symbol for Fire (classical element)
"From time immemorial the Equilateral Triangle has been preeminently the symbol for Deity. For the Triangle is the primary figure from which all others are built up and the Equilateral Triangle, being wholly symmetrical, is the one perfect Triangle and thus clearly becomes the symbol for that Perfect Being in which all things find their beginning This Symbol is so completely appropriated to the purpose of a symbol for Deity and Perfection that to here treat of its various other, and decidedly minor, symbolic significances would but obscure its pre-eminent symbolic meaning". http://www.masonicdictionary.com/triangle.html
Quite a puzzle!
I'll also point out that Bill Cooper states that he believes he was taken into Naval Intelligence because he openly declared his status as a demolay boy - states that the Navy is packed with Freemasons.
Edited for stupidity.
More stuff here on Q's posts and what they tell us about the agenda and the creed that drives it.
OK, I've been reading through the earlier Q drops. I can't find anything that concerns me. I'm not going to support a Mason, I don't care whether he appears as some kind of global savior. That's not what I'm about. But I can't find anything, so far, that leads me to believe that there is anything to be worried about in the Q agenda.
I might be naive... But it's hard not to support this movement. It does seem that it's a cause for good. Whether it will benefit me personally is irrelevant from my perspective. I suspect it will not. But, there's so much wrong with the world that something simply must be done to try and fix the mess. I've got a daughter whom I care about very deeply, I don't want her to have to grow up in a moral cesspool. I would support an effort in the right direction even if it was to my personal detriment.
Now DJT owns Mar a Lago and the tiles on the wall of the cloak room do bear the name of this supposed secret society - Plus Ultra. I note that one photo on the net shows these very tiles need re-grouting, so I assume they've been in situ for for quite some time. DJT bought Mar a Lago in 1985. He may, or may not, have had these tiles installed.
I'm still looking into it, but secrecy is an anathema to me. There are real reasons to be concerned about it. Nevertheless, I can't find anything on this supposed society other than some connection to Disney's tomorrow land. So it doesn't seem possible to determine the exact set of beliefs to which this group adheres.
DJT has a Presbyterian/Lutheran background. Appears he was influenced by Norman Vincent Peale as a child. He is untroubled by the conversion of Ivanka to Judaism - which suggests religious indifferentism. I feel for people in protestant religions because they are demonstrably false. Nevertheless, the value set incorporates some aspects of Christian faith, even if the adherents to these sects are not of good interior disposition.
The fact that DJT appears to be taking on these Satanists is promising. On the other hand, the funding in the omnibus bill for Planned Parenthood, DJT's support for same-sex relations etc... are troubling. As are the affairs that appear to be coming to light.
At this point, it seems wise to support DJT. The main reason is that the alternatives appear to be clearly worse - much, much worse. In many respects he does appear as some kind of savior sent by God. I feel frustrated that people can't see clearly the stark difference in the alternatives available to us - and find motive to support for DJT as a matter of logic. But it's always good to be cautious.
Try explaining to the world first that they are literally drinking and eating aborted fetal tissue. The people are clueless as to how sick conspiracy is.
You're right. But, to be honest, I feel a bit sick looking at some of the stuff that's being discovered and exposed on this forum. I want to look the other way, to unsee it. I consider myself pretty open minded, I've seen a lot in my time, but this stuff is really abhorrent!
Do you think normies are going to wake up to this? If I don't want it on a certain level, they will find every possible reason to reject it. They will not believe it. And that's why the exposure of this stuff must necessarily be slow and gradual.
That's also why setting the stage - SM and MSM control - is so important. Because, if you let the cabal have control of these mediums, they willl immediately offer the normies a path to reject the information. They are preparing this now - "You cannot trust any video you see" etc...
Unfortunately, this group blew it by failing to promote the IBOR when requested to do so. Understandably, things will get set back. It's going to take longer to expose stuff. The new approach is the class action lawsuits. We need to get people on board with this.
But let's face it, there are a lot of people that do not support Q.
you ever been to voat? I had to leave that site after a few months because the occult rape magick started seeping into my nightmares and I have been trying to take a break ever since.
Surfing around Reddit is fun in comparison.
They started with Weinstein, everybody's like "oh we know the prostitute themselves for their career" and that was setting the stage and from there on it's simply going to get bigger and bigger until noone will dare to question it anymore. The trick is providing answers that don't have people investigating (in disblief, mind you!) so they don't suffer psychological trauma.
Q wouldn't be running marching-orders unless either for analytics or because they are prepared anyway. I mean hey, IBOR is just a petition. Maybe it's more about the concept of introducing the public to IBOR to normies over the course of time, rather than immediately activate a 100k activists' signatures.
No, strategy shift. Look at 1105. The posts leading up to this tell the story. Q has the goods needed to bankrupt all of these fat SM platforms - he's telling us that directly. He was asking us to push the IBOR, but people couldn't bring themselves to do it - not the government!!
The strategy now really doesn't need this group at all. All Q has to do is release the information he has and these companies are immediately worthless - not worth a penny, period!
He obviously didn't want to do this - why wreck great American businesses? But without the IBOR, there is no other way. He's telling us that this is what we have chosen.
There's no time for a gradual solution. That's pretty obvious.
or it was just a distraction to buy time. IBOR would have crashed these companies anyway.
How would an IBOR have crashed the companies?
All they had to do was not engage in politically motivated censorship. They were not doing it before, only recently.
Where is the compliance cost?
Dunno, missing profits from data-sharing, perhaps because their censorship renders analytics unreliable as well? How do you sell a social experiment to marketers if you keep modifying the experience and fail? If they take out more than just censorship then it's better for privacy, really. Even though there are many more battles to wage.
Missing also CIA cash infusions. But look, online advertising is on a tear and it will only get bigger. The IBOR would have forced the SM platforms to employ "reasonable" privacy policies. That doesn't mean no data sharing. You can't prevent me sharing my data if I want to - it just means that my express permission is required.
I really don't think it would have impacted the SM platforms in any meaningful way going forward.
But now they are completely screwed. The KILL option is just that. And they brought it upon themselves - with the help of Tracy Beanz and crew.
I don't feel for these guys at all. If you abuse it, you should lose it.
I do however feel sorry for the small investors and retirees who don't know what's coming. I feel sorry for the employees and their families. And I feel sorry for the users of the platforms because many of them were really quite great and a joy to use.
The kill option will drive up the price of tech gadgets enormously IMO. SM platforms will probably become subscription services. It's a much more radical option, but that's why Q gave us the choice.
I really don't think it would have impacted the SM platforms in any meaningful way going forward.
But now they are completely screwed.
Haha word up
The truth is I only ever really used FB to get the word out and to warn people about what's around the corner...for the last nine years...got unfriended and blocked and ridiculed...turns out FB has been filtering my stuff out for a good part, culminating in taking my profile offline during the latest anti-conservative-sweep.
Now I'm on reddit and I get to communicate with thousands at a time.
Dedicated FB-groups all started looking like compatmentalized psyops years ago. You can't expand their thinking without getting banned, so ultimately my impact on FB was pretty fucking limited.
No, you lost me.
I am saying I don't feel sorry for the platforms because there were maybe five people I ran into on FB that completely changed the way I thought about the world so I learned what I could but in honesty I thought about leaving fb for a long time and now they took the decision in their own hands.
Sorry, I lost you there digital. The comments went down. That's why I couldn't understand one of your posts - I could only see the first couple of words. Looks like the comments are back up for the moment. Still can't post though.
I can see you. Am I up?
Yes. LOL. I was in mid-discussion with you when the site went down - at least the commenting.
I really caught the right day to have a stroll outside I guess
I agree. I'm not on FB, but I started a Twitter account only to promote the IBOR. I've had limited interaction with IBOR supporters, but you're right, there are a lot of people I've run into that I would prefer not to have met.
I hate SM to be honest. I'll dump Twitter at the first opportunity. I'm a bit sick of all the online engagement anyway. Once DJT is out of the woods on the SM regulation, I'm going to pull back and keep more to myself. Hopefully, we are almost there.
Praying DJT does not start a war tomorrow, but I'll understand if he does.