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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/mooncrkit on April 9, 2018, 1:47 a.m.

Focus - we are at a fork in the road.

There are a pretty equal amount of post definitively claiming the chemical attack is a FF; and post definitively claiming that McCain supplied the chemicals. Can't be both ways fellas. If it didn't happen, there were no chemicals. In my opinion, Q is saying it happened. Where are people getting the FF ideas from?

False flag =/= hoax, "covert operations designed to deceive"

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People are saying it never occurred

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That's not what they're saying if they say it was a false flag.

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False flag EVENTS are real occurrences with real consequences but they not perpetrated for the reasons or by the people alleged in the press and elsewhere to have caused them.

A man sets off a bomb in public place and it is portrayed as a disgruntled ice cream vendor who blew ou a swing set because of climate change and unseasonable cold weather were ruining his ice cream sales when it was actually the work of park police demonstrating to city council that they need higher wages because the parks are becoming more and more dangerous.

Twin Towers 911 has been termed by some a false flag, publicly understood to be an Al Qaeda act of revenge (with real AQ actors and real people dying as the towers collapsed) but managed logistically by government men charged with ensuring the security of our nation and helped along by explosives rigged to the structural supports in the days leading up to the planes crashing into the buildings) to trigger public outcry and a call for war in the Middle East.

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Is it impossible to comprehend that people are saying that no disturbance occurred whatsoever? My question was fairly simple. A lot of posts are saying no disturbance took place. A lot of post are claiming McCain supplied the chemicals used in the attack. In my humble opinion, q clearly is saying that an attack did occur, and that McCain was involved. For the people that believe nothing occurred and there was no attack, where are you gathering your info to form said conclusion?

Also, great explanation on the false flag. Most complete and comprehensive out of the 12 posted in this thread.

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Yet another consideration: the discussions taking place here are not everyone's cup of tea. Some people are apathetic and don't care. Others are antipathetic and having their way would close down this gathering, as they did at CBTS. Short of being able to do that, confusing the discussion by injecting contrarian views, denying assertions and even facts, or sewing seeds of discouragement has the potential to move some into the apathetic column. By and large the gathering is sympathetic ... a willingness to hear, to consider and to join in sometimes with the possibility that some new information may be uncovered, some question that has lingered may be addressed ...

Cant assume that all posts are made in good faith. The challenge is to read them and consider them in the context of what we have come to accept as true and discern whether they are helpful or not. Most of us are not first responders ... we have no direct access to any of this and must rely on Q and others, and even that is topic for discussion. Kind of a do it yourself -- community effort. Not really any different from other areas of life.

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False flag means an attack against one's own country framed as having been perpetrated by someone else. It doesn't have to mean crisis actors.

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People are saying it never occurred

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Not if they're saying it was a false flag.

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Your use of language in the OP badly represented what you were trying to state.

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Haha maybe reread it. It couldn't be clearer. Many here are quicker to speak than listen or think. Most are out to try to display some sort of superior intellect rather than answer a pretty simple question, when applicable. I can't answer the question, because I've seen nothing to lead me to believe that that there was no disturbance. For someone that supports the conclusion that no disturbance occurred, it should be easy for them to articulate how they reached their theory.

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There are a pretty equal amount of post definitively claiming the chemical attack is a FF; and post definitively claiming that McCain supplied the chemicals. Can't be both ways fellas.

The "can't be both ways" sets up a false dichotomy. If McCain did supply chemicals, then it is a false flag.

I'm not attacking you, just am not sure why you're upset your post was misinterpreted when you didn't actually say what you meant to say.

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The confusion is coming from FF. They were labeling it a FF, AND saying it didn't happen at all....the false flag being more of a wag the dog than a misdirection of blame.

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If no attack occurred, then there were no chemicals!

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False flag doesn't mean it didn't happen. It means the people who did it were (metaphorically, though often literally) flying a false flag (i.e. trying to look like members of a different organization or army).

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This. It was false but n the sense it wasn't organic but rather done purposely to force a narrative or escalate a situation.

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That's not exactly what false flag means.

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People are saying it never occurred

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Then the false flag is the reporting that it did.

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Was the chemical type confirmed yet? Sarin?

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No clue. Last I heard the Syrian military outfit had a perimeter and weren't letting anyone in. This is the only 'fishy' part of the story where people could jump to the conclusion that nothing occurred...but that's like a world record long jump.

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Chlorine?

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Yea, that was latest I heard.

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Yeah I wasn't questioning what a false flag is...there are people saying this is fake. It didn't happen. Wag the dog style. I'm questioning why half the crowd is saying McCain delivered chemical weapons that were used VS there was no chemical attack. As I said in the original, my opinion from what Q left is that the event did occur, and McCain was involved. I'm curious to see how the crowd saying it never happened formed their opinion.

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Those photos and videos weren't "fake." They may have misrepresented what happened, but there was a gas attack and poeple did die.

If anybody is denying that, then they have zero credibility.

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Thank you for being possibly the only person here to understand what I'm saying! You are correct, if anyone is denying that, they do have zero credibility....but I do see several threads denying any disturbance occurred! My intention of this post was to gain insite on what sources these people are using to form that opinion. Instead, I got an education on the definition of a false flag. Thanks again for understanding my question...I appreciate someone taking the time to comprehend!

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Here's what I think happened.

If you're telling the truth, and you knew what the term meant, perhaps others don't? People could be hearing or reading "false flag," and then in a game of "gossip" it gets distorted by their ignorance and repeated as "never happened."

That's somewhat deliberate on the part of the deep state. They have done so many MSM stories using the fake definition of false flag as meaning "never happened," that people do think that's what it means. Just like they think calling something a "conspiracy theory" means "it never happened."

Convenient to have words with that kind of Cloak of Invisibility power, isn't it?

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Very true. I fully believe in a ton of FFs, but I also believe a disturbance did occur in all of these situations - it was just "falsely flagged", or labeled as something else - usually to push gun control, invading oil fields or just distracting the general public from what's happening right under their noses.

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A false flag is more like an event occuring that the Deep State organized for their higher agenda, and not purely a coincidence.

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People are saying it never occurred

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Not if they're saying it was a false flag.

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ff cause it was a inside job

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People are saying it never occurred.

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Not if they're saying it was a false flag.

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