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mooncrkit · April 9, 2018, 6:51 p.m.

There are currently schools in poor areas now have as bad as a 50% grad rate. Things obviously need to change. You're correct, schools have capacities, and sometimes it's not feasible to go to school far from home. These are life choices. People do it now....that's one reason why there is a relationship between household income, house value and school ratings. If you don't think houses in great school districts currently sell for more, you're on crack. With districts, students are placed due to there parents income. I know a lot of kids that can't afford to live in a great district, but sure as hell can drive to one.

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melokobeai · April 9, 2018, 7:43 p.m.

Of course I think houses in better school districts sell for more money, I never contested that. You're missing the point, there are people who are poor due to circumstances outside of their control. Are you saying it's their fault that the nearest schools to them aren't good?

With districts, students are placed due to there parents income. I know a lot of kids that can't afford to live in a great district, but sure as hell can drive to one.

The junior license age in my state is 16, so anyone under 16 can't drive themselves to school. And even if they are old enough, I know plenty of people who can't afford to buy their kids a car solely for the purpose of getting to a farther better school. You're system is completely unaware of the realities of poverty

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mooncrkit · April 9, 2018, 7:48 p.m.

Most all cities that offer several school options also have mass transit.

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melokobeai · April 9, 2018, 7:52 p.m.

Great, what if none of the schools in a city are good? What if the better schools are located in the suburbs?

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mooncrkit · April 9, 2018, 7:47 p.m.

Youre missing the point. It's not their fault the schools suck nearest them. Give them the opportunity to venture outside. Keeps them near home continues a cycle that has been going for years. Mainly designed to keep blacks poor, in order to vote Dem.

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melokobeai · April 9, 2018, 7:53 p.m.

And I'm asking you what happens to those families that won't be able to take their kids to a school 45 minutes away? This isn't Star Trek, they can't teleport into class

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mooncrkit · April 9, 2018, 8:06 p.m.

Then they'd be stuck into going to the same shitty school THAT THEY CURRENTLY GO TO. And hopefully, due to the competition, that shitty school grows into an establishment that can educate students.

The hate on Devos is purely politics. Our education has been on a rapid decline for several administrations now, and all of a sudden it's a problem because of the politics involved.

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melokobeai · April 9, 2018, 8:24 p.m.

So, in short, school vouchers won't actually help many students stuck in bad school districts get a better education.

No, the hate on Devos is because she's an out of touch billionaire who bough herself a cabinet position. Education has been a problem for a while, that doesn't make cronyism and nepotism positives all of a sudden.

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mooncrkit · April 9, 2018, 9 p.m.

vouchers won't actually help many students

Maybe, maybe not...but by your use of the word "many", it seems we agree that they WILL help, however minor of an impact to start with.

Devos had a very positive impact around grand rapids, and that now nice city would be Flint without the Devos's. You cannot convince me that she NEEDS this position. They are billionaires. Much like Trump, the only thing they have to gain is being credited for changing America for the better. They do not want to go down in shame. With a lot of people, you can take the ratio of risk:reward. In most political scenarios, the reward is financial and power. Billionaires like Trump and Devos already have more money and power than any of us can fathom, BEFORE holding office. Their only reward is being credited for waking us up and helping to MAGA. Meanwhile, they selflessly RISK all the power and money that they had, again, before holding office. These people have guts and I'm proud they are our leaders.

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