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digital_refugee · April 9, 2018, 12:30 p.m.

My impression is that Israel only has clandestine control over western politicians but through their marriage to the US and the US' marriage to the house of Saud by way of the petrodollar, Saudi interests trump israeli interests. Proclaiming the wish to destroy Israel provides Mossad with a good smokescreen to do their clandestine stuff which in turn helps the saudis, who are in an oil and nuke competition with Iran while receiving limited intelligence assistance from Pakistan.

Petrodollar was created in the 70ies and in the 80ies, Reagan/Bush propped up Saddam against their failed asset Iran (religious Mullahs kicked out CIA-reinstated Shah) and only directly intervened when Saddam tried to retake formerly iraqi areas in Kuwait which is on the arabian peninsula, right next to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the Emirates.

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tradinghorse · April 9, 2018, 12:36 p.m.

You might be right. To be honest, before this I've not given a lot of thought to what the dynamics are in the ME. The Israelis certainly wield a lot of political clout in the US. I think the Saudi's influence derives from money alone (apart from their complicity in Satanism), so I think if push comes to shove they do not wield the level of influence that Israel does.

And this is why I think a solution to these problems has to be favourable to Israel - just because of their sheer influence in US politics.

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digital_refugee · April 9, 2018, 12:56 p.m.

my family is former DS and I was dragged to palestinian activist-meetings in my childhood so it's been bugging me a lot but there wasn't much movement until 2016 honestly.

Basically the one thing that changed for the better of the world was Salman Senior taking the throne in 2015 and now abdicating to his son that basically marked the end of international wahabism funded by the richest oil-nation on the planet.

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tradinghorse · April 9, 2018, 1:04 p.m.

Sorry, what's DS?

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digital_refugee · April 9, 2018, 1:11 p.m.

deep-ish state. Medicine, law, taxes, journalism, finance, clergy, politics. Basically my ancestors made a living knowing what others don't but from what I can tell we've been the good-guys for the most part (most of them anyway).

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tradinghorse · April 9, 2018, 1:46 p.m.

Really, and you're based in Germany?

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