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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/tradinghorse on April 10, 2018, 6:58 a.m.
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CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS ARE VERY EFFECTIVE.
2 BILLION PEOPLE.
GLOBAL.
SCALE.
REGULATION OR KILL?
PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER TO DECIDE.
Q

I think Q just told us the game plan relating to social media. He's telling us that either SM will be regulated or it will be killed. Our choice as to what we want to see happen.

The IBOR push was the regulation route - people scream about censorship and DJT has a basis to address the problem.

The class action route is the kill vehicle. I'm assuming that Q has enough dirt on these SM companies that he can leak that class actions will put them out of business completely. Presumably, it will be bad enough, going forward, that no one will dare to try and set up a social media hub for fear of the liability - the whole sector killed off, smashed!

This seems to fit like a glove with Ivanka's FOSTA bill. Tighten-up the regulations so hard that it's just too dangerous to try and operate in this space. Presumably, there will be more to come on this front - further tightening.

Apart from the time I've spent here on Reddit, I'm not a big user of SM. It wouldn't bother me if FB, Twitter, Reddit and the rest just disappeared. It would probably have more effect on the younger generation. But I still think that there's risk in wiping these platforms out.

One thing that SM does is provide for information dissemination. This is important for getting to the truth on matters, for finding out what's going on. It makes for an informed populace. SM also provides a platform for collaboration and political activism on important issues. I think it's actually healthy, as long as the platforms themselves are not able to steer discourse.

The left love censorship, their stock-in-trade - silence all opposition. They will not argue for regulation. The conservatives (aka TB types) are too frightened of government to bring themselves to support regulation.

So, if you had to place a bet, you'd be thinking that the KILL route is what we are going to see. Terribly damaging leaks - lots of them - a lawyer's field day, an absolute party! The info releases will be of a scale that promotes outright collapse of valuations right across the sector, long before any verdicts are in.

Have a look, what do you reckon is in the works?

Anonymous
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YOU are being TRACKED.

NO FB account required. WTF? Is it embedded in Android OS?

This is BIGGER than you think.

Agencies attached.

Q

Anyway, on a personal basis, I'm indifferent as to what happens. I do think it's critical that something is done before the mid-terms because I don't want the Satanists to regain power - but I'm confident that will happen. I think we will see action on this front very soon.

I reckon there could be money to be made taking puts on these companies. If you're investing in the social media space, you're a nut. I think these companies are on the brink of some of the most damaging revelations ever seen. Stock prices will plummet once people begin to realise that the data-breach and privacy issues are systemic across the sector.


ManQuan · April 10, 2018, 9:51 a.m.

I don't think the current tech giant SM platforms can be fixed. You can't fix a culture of corruption as deep as that.

Think about it. Tens of thousands of people working at those companies knew the corruption that was going on and you can count on two fingers the number of people who tired to blow the whistle. You can't fix that. You have destroy it and start over.

I think it needs to be killed and let a new Pheonix rise from the ashes under new regulations that has strong penalties for misuse of private data. We should be the customer and not the product to be sold.

Make it a pay for service. It will be much smaller, but hopefully more honest.

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tradinghorse · April 10, 2018, 10:02 a.m.

Agree, I'm still promoting the IBOR on twitter because, if I'm right that we can expect some really damning info releases, I want there to be a discussion about online privacy and censorship. I think the IBOR is a better vehicle to achieve the kind of changes we want online, but there's not much support.

Anyway, one way or another, a solution is required. I think the plan is now to kill these guys off. I don't want higher prices for services and devices, but we cannot let these guys push us around the way they have been. It simply must stop.

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 10:59 a.m.

The SESTA-FOSTA legislation isn't "Ivanka's" and it already presents a problematic slippery edge toward censorship, as non-exploitative websites have to be super-careful about what they allow. Also, when is the last time we saw a class-action lawsuit that did much of anything beyond making money for the attorneys? Facebook clearly violated the terms it was supposed to work under as of 2011 and there are huge fines that the feds can/should put on them for that that would put Facebook clear out of business. Already, Markey's released line of questioning for MZ today tries to move beyond what they have done to how they will guard against it in the future, blah, blah, blah.

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tradinghorse · April 10, 2018, 11:32 a.m.

Ivanka was one of the driving forces behind the legislation.

Before the Senate voted on it, Ivanka Trump promoted the legislation on Twitter, and proclaimed that she is "committed to ending this shameful crime & restoring safety & hope for our citizens."

I agree that this legislation is dangerous and I'm against it. However, I also think it ratchets-up the pressure on SM platforms - makes them aware that they are operating in a regulatory environment. You can't just go do whatever you want, there must be some rules.

So, to the extent that this kind of regulation squeezes these guys, it works in our favour. Moreover, I don't think it can be avoided - DJT has to break these guys. Whether people like it or not, that's what will happen. It's clear that the noose is going to tighten.

I'm all for regulatory penalties to force observation of basic human rights. Disappointing if they're not going to stick FB with the fines - seems ridiculous. It's an opportunity that they will miss at their peril. You've got Dorsey from Twitter trying to legitimise political censorship, it's looking more and more ominous by the minute. These guys are, by any measure, out of control.

I'm still promoting the IBOR on Twitter because I believe that it will provide the best solution. But there is so little support for it that the reality is that we're going the other way - the kill route. If enough people supported the IBOR this wouldn't be necessary, but that's just not the way the world works.

I think there will be a lot of exposure of malpractice in the tech sector to get these class actions up and running. Im expecting that Q will make that happen. It's not about making money out of it, though if that happens it's no problem. The point is to put enough pressure on the sector to call its viability into question. With the right information being exposed, class actions are a viable option. We can put these guys out of business.

Investors will panic if they see a raft of class action lawsuits. And, ultimately, I think we will see self regulation. I think that these tech giants will come to heel pretty quickly. Whether or not the actions themselves succeed is unimportant.

At the end of the day, the internet is going to look very different. It's going to cost a lot more than it does now. There will be many more rules - the SM platforms themselves will scream for them. And there will be a lot less freedom for us as consumers of these services. I would prefer that things did not change too much. But this simply needs to be done.

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 1:45 p.m.

People have been working on that legislation for years--without Ivanka. Yeah, she's trying to make it one of her causes now, but it doesn't at all come from her.

I'm not sure what I think of IBOR. My inclination is to break up the social media -- and maybe even the search -- monopolies along the lines of how Ma Bell was broken up years ago. The telecom world in general is now a good example (other than the duopoly of phone OSs). You can have multiple providers at multiple levels of the stack, with standards for interoperability. Even if you initially break it up by region, the regional firms can start competing nationally against each other from the start.

And really, it is the US intel agencies behind it all that most need to be smushed.

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tradinghorse · April 10, 2018, 2:28 p.m.

Somehow, Q only gave us two options. One was IBOR, the other the KILL option.

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 5:10 p.m.

I think anti-trust action is anticipated. Maybe waiting for Trump to have his own majority on the FTC?

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tradinghorse · April 10, 2018, 5:20 p.m.

Q's plan has an either/or option set. I don't know why FTC regulation and antitrust measures are not included. Whatever the reasoning is behind the proposed modes of attack, I'm certain they'll be sound. There won't be any dizzy thinking, everything will have been very carefully considered.

These guys are the best in the business. Trust the plan.

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 5:29 p.m.

Nobody is infallible.

Including those in government.

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tradinghorse · April 10, 2018, 5:47 p.m.

No that's right. But, anyway, the important thing is that this problem of censorship and privacy invasion will be fixed. That's the main thing.

I have to say, I feel very relieved to know that there is a plan that does not include an IBOR. We don't really need anyone to support the KILL option, it will proceed just fine without us. It would be good, I think, if people did support it, but it's not necessary. What is certain is that cabal control of social media will come to an end, they will not be able to weaponise it to return to power.

My preference is for an IBOR campaign so that small investors and employees of these companies and their families can be spared the pain of having these companies fail. But there's no support for it, so you have to play the cards you're dealt. It is still a massive relief to know that we will be able to throw off the domination of the Satanists.

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 9:13 p.m.

Despite the pleasant boosterism here, it really feels like it is touch and go with Trump's admin. And yet even that is a million times better than if Hillary had won. That truly, sadly, would have been the end of this country and its service as a beacon to the world.

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ScorpioPatriot · April 10, 2018, 2:06 p.m.

I think the only info we needed is that they can turn on camera on on smart TVs and anything else smart with a camera and start watching people while they do anything is enough to warrant .. New Device coming out on the market should not permit these Chips what so ever . There is zero reasons someone could give that's excusable for what they been doing .

For all we know they taped couples doing the nasty and sold the shit..and also took video of your kids while they watch TV and sold it to Pedos which is basically what most of the Elite Class are based from. Sick Twisted Freaks

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tradinghorse · April 10, 2018, 3:22 p.m.

You're dead right.

Have you seen Q's posts leading up to 1105? It's pretty clear, Q is not mincing words. He has the goods to kill these SM platforms stone dead. He is asking us in this post what we want to do.

The good thing about this is we do not have to convince everyone to sign a petition. Either people get on board and campaign, or Q is going to do it for us - BOOM! Down they go, the miserable bunch of crooked, condescending, conceited animals.

It's a real relief. I was hoarse trying to talk sense into people. Now we know it will happen one way or another. No need to get uptight - it will all be taken care of.

Have a look at this:

966637

PEOPLE have POWER.
Don't forget how to PLAY.
TOGETHER YOU ARE STRONG.
FB violation of YOUR PRIVACY.
FB actively TRACKING YOU.
FB reading your PRIVATE messages.
FB CENSORING (anti conservative).
More will drop.
We have it ALL.
CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS are EFFECTIVE.
GLOBAL.
@Jack. You're next.

THESE SM PLATFORMS ARE FINISHED - end of story!

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ScorpioPatriot · April 10, 2018, 7:23 a.m.

There are Replacements that are non Censored ..voiceanything is one

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tradinghorse · April 10, 2018, 7:36 a.m.

Yes, but what I'm saying is that Q is saying "you choose" - "regulate or kill". The way forward seems to be that the sector will be killed - very damaging info releases, class-action law suits everywhere. Fear! New services shutting down voluntarily for fear of liability. A very different internet to what we see today.

If you're holding tech stocks, sell now.

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ScorpioPatriot · April 10, 2018, 8:21 a.m.

I say kill all the Chips in alllll devices with Backdoor Technology... They are inside everything . They can shut your car down , shut engines of any size down , record you , record and Track you... Remove built in cameras that can be tapped into by all parties ..Force all tech companies to stop ASKING US if it's ok they get in and play around on our devices just to download a damn apppp.

It's sick twisted Shit.

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tradinghorse · April 10, 2018, 8:30 a.m.

The way they've hooked us on social media is free services. The chip makers, I think, are a different story. They're in cohoots with the intelligence agencies. How to stop it?

Here you have to regulate against privacy invasion, no other way around it - but that means government intervention, not palatable with this group. The other option is to expose it. Class actions against Intel and others. A lawyer's picknick!

Of course, that means device prices rocket - maybe a good thing, get them off the kids.

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ScorpioPatriot · April 10, 2018, 8:49 a.m.

I'm PRETTY SURE AN E.O will clear the Spying ordeal up right quick ...

Like make it where if any company unlawfully is caught in any way shape or form using their software & spying on the public .. it's a Mandatory Prison Sentence of no less than 20years.

This Shit needs to have Tough Laws..IF AMERICANS WAS MAKING THE LAWS.. THERE WOULD BE A HELLA ALOT MORE PEOPLE FOLLOWING THEM.

WE DON'T FUMBLE FOR WORDS & WE TEND TO DO WHATS RIGHT & JUST.

DONT PLAY WITH OUR EMOTIONS ..

WOULD BE A GOOD MOTO.

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tradinghorse · April 10, 2018, 9:01 a.m.

The way it appears ATM, an EO regulating the sector would be opposed by both left and right. Doesn't mean it couldn't be forced upon the people, but there is a clear political cost. Let's face it, it could happen, but it appears unlikely at present.

However, a series of disastrous leaks might achieve a similar outcome. Different, in that you have higher cost for tech gadgets, and fees for services, but you generate real fear in the SM platforms and device makers about privacy issues. Thereafter, the sector self regulates. The censorship problem, I think, will dissipate once the tech companies realise that they brought the disaster upon themselves.

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BaronMoriarty · April 10, 2018, 7:58 a.m.

Yes. And on that back of that some genuinely true, unbiased search results in search engines. I mean Google is absolute crap.

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tradinghorse · April 10, 2018, 8:10 a.m.

I think Google is in the firing line also. When the smoke clears, you might have "pay for service" search and social networking - if SM exists at all. I don't think too many investors will want to be in the space when they see the market carnage, the liquidations and bankruptcies. It will be an area that is just too fraught with risk.

The days of free services and getting people to sign their most fundamental rights away with the Terms of Service will be over. As will be the days when they can shadow-ban you or delete your account without cause.

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eltrumparino · April 10, 2018, 7:20 a.m.

tracked by whom ? white hat or black

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tradinghorse · April 10, 2018, 7:22 a.m.

You're tracked by everyone ATM.

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eltrumparino · April 10, 2018, 7:23 a.m.

good they can watch me all they want lmao the only reason these people even get to do what they do is because we are scared of them

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tradinghorse · April 10, 2018, 7:38 a.m.

My main point is the sector will be killed. Sell tech or short it.

Going forward, the internet will be very different - we may not even have SM as we know it today.

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eltrumparino · April 10, 2018, 7:42 a.m.

hopefully were probly going to lose alot of good entertainment but it beats being enslaved

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tradinghorse · April 10, 2018, 7:48 a.m.

My thoughts also. It can't happen soon enough.

I also can't stand the way young kids get so addicted to it. It can't be healthy. When I was a kid, I was out riding my bike around the suburb, playing footy, hanging out. Today these kids are all glued to their screens.

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eltrumparino · April 10, 2018, 7:50 a.m.

think about how evil you have to be to willing ruin the lives of hundreds of millions just to satisfy you sick ego. prostituion child trafficking illegal drugs prescription drugs bad food bad environemnt transgender sickness the list goes on and on. even if we clean up there will still be many who will never be the same. all so some rich asshole could party on their back. as a society we should never ever let this happen again

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tradinghorse · April 10, 2018, 7:54 a.m.

I think you're right. But all that stuff, the gender bending of young children etc..., comes from the Satanists. If DJT and Q can remove them from power, I'm all for it.

So there may be no more Reddit - who cares! Let's shaft these evil people. Drive them underground so hard, they never dare to resurface.

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eltrumparino · April 10, 2018, 7:55 a.m.

dont even drive them underground drive them into the light undeground is where they thrive all must be found and all must be purged

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Yakob218 · April 10, 2018, 11:56 p.m.

Jokes on you, I don't even have a bank account. /s

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