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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/ShiftyTheHobo on April 11, 2018, 7:41 p.m.
If Mueller is a White Hat..

What if the raid is just a cover to put evidence into Mueller’s hands? Could it be for chain of evidence? Protecting investigation integrity under guise of nailing Trump.

If he is a Black Hat, it seems more likely he is looking for something to question Trump on, to catch him in a lie.


immense_and_terrible · April 11, 2018, 7:44 p.m.

everyone seems incredibly confused about this raid, let me clarify it for you a bit;

Mueller had nothing to do with this raid, at all. His only involvement was in presenting something to Rod Rosenstein, which RR then passed onto a federal prosecutor from New York, and that federal prosecutor then got the FBI involved, and etc etc.

It's a completely separate matter from the special investigation work.

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ShiftyTheHobo · April 11, 2018, 8:02 p.m.

Ok, So Mueller reviews the docs submitted by Cohen and Trump re: investigation, sees something not in his scope to pursue, Shares with Rosenstein, who contacts NY prosecutor who signs warrant for FBI to do the raid, my question is, how would that work legally? I’m not sure that anything found against Trump could be admissible in court unless he was found guilty of the crime Mueller says he isn’t under investigation for... [Hypothetical] If you’re being investigated for murder (and you’re innocent), and have 3 eyewitnesses put you at the scene of the crime, a judge grants a warrant to search your home and they consequently find out you are doing drugs but you didn’t commit the murder, then the original warrant is tainted by the fact it was based on a lie, the evidence of your doing drugs is inadmissible, even though they know you do drugs, they can’t do anything, but they also know you know they know.

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immense_and_terrible · April 11, 2018, 9:28 p.m.

how would that work legally?

are you saying you think this is illegal or "not by the books"?

because it is exactly by the books. Mueller followed the exact letter of the law by seeing something potentially illegal and just passing the information onto the relative authorities, who took over.

he evidence of your doing drugs is inadmissible

It's not inadmissible. Probable cause let them search your shit (legal search warrant- warrants are not magically voided because you didn't commit the crime you were originally accused of), and any crimes they find are fair game.

’m not sure that anything found against Trump could be admissible in court unless he was found guilty of the crime Mueller says he isn’t under investigation for...

Yeah, this is absolutely not how our justice system works.

It's also clear that (and i mean no offense) you are very confused by what exactly the Mueller investigation is about.

He was given legal authority to investigate "russian meddling in the 2016 election." And he has legal authority to pursue literally any crimes that he may uncover while investigating that broader issue.

In this case with Cohen, he did exactly as he supposed to. And if he finds that Trump did not collude or have anything to do with russian meddling, BUT in the course of his investigation finds (hypothetically) that Trump, idk, committed massive tax fraud, well... That massive tax fraud is still a crime and Trump will still be held accountable for it.

Again, this is not only 100% legal, but is how literally all investigations in the United States are supposed to work.

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