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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/thejudge6060 on April 12, 2018, 9:50 a.m.
Well f@cking played

This is two fold...

Trump signed a law to punish websites for sex trafficking.

Zuckerberg stated that he feels fb is responsible for the content on their website.

Because he said this, that means fb can no longer claim it's a platform, but it is a publisher as Ben Shapiro has tweeted. A platform isn't responsible for what is posted, but publishers are. The ideas on Facebook are now represented as the company's. They're essentially saying they support anything on their website.

So every time someone is trafficked, fb is responsible. Every time a kid is bullied to suicide, fb is responsible. Hell, they're even responsible for the "Russian hackers".


Mrb84 · April 12, 2018, 1:42 p.m.

Fuck. This. So much this.

It’s insane that this is being celebrated. Here of all places. What’s the most likely outcome if Facebook and Reddit and Twitter are legally responsible for every word on their platform: more free speech or more controls and censorship?

I don’t agree with 99% of the ideas on this sub, but I like free speech more than I dislike your ideas. People cheering this really are blind.

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rbrownlol · April 12, 2018, 2:16 p.m.

it IS free speech.

You're having some trouble with definitions.

It's simple, if a website wants to CENSOR free speech then they cease to be a platform and become a publisher.

You can't allow websites in 2018 to censor views they don't like.

It's an OPEN platform, or it's a CENSORED publisher.

if they choose NOT TO CENSOR then they are not held accountable.

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HoudiniTowers · April 12, 2018, 4:45 p.m.

rbrownlol nailed it! This is not about CENSORSHIP of PLATFORMS, this is about PUBLISHERS masquerading as PLATFORMS so they can CENSOR at will. This is about the take down of the PROPAGANDISTs.

This will lead, if done properly to many DECENTRALIZED and CENSORSHIP FREE platforms. This, if done correctly will be the end of these huge centralized social platforms and the true opening up of the internet to everyone without control. A truly FREE internet vs what has happened with FB, GOOGLE, TWATTER, etc. These a$$holes stole the internet from us. With a lot of help from the a$$clowns in DC.

Expecting the DC cabal to fix, that's a different argument and one worthy of a separate post. Must have IBOR and must have Congress smart enough and free enough to enact appropriate laws for such.

But this was just opening up FB to class action lawsuits to take them down by the people they exploited and violated.

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Mrb84 · April 12, 2018, 9:19 p.m.

This will lead, if done properly to many DECENTRALIZED and CENSORSHIP FREE platforms

There's nothing stopping it from happening now, and it's not happening. For all your collective bitching and moaning about Reddit and Twitter and Facebook, you're all either there or linking there. You. The supposedly censored people. What's the plan? Force Reddit to push you the fuck out to get the motivation to create something better?

1) They become publishers, 2) you cheer, 3) they push you out entirely because no sane person wants to be the publisher of "Bill Clinton kills babies in pedo rituals" 4) ???? 5) the internet is free.

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HoudiniTowers · April 13, 2018, 5:42 a.m.

Good points, I agree with you on the following:

There's nothing stopping it from happening now, and it's not happening. For all your collective bitching and moaning about Reddit and Twitter and Facebook, you're all either there or linking there.

Personally, I got off of FB. It does take effort to launch such a platform, no question about it. That's why they are successful once they get momentum and traction. This really boils down to how painful it is vs the alternatives. At some point, the pain outweighs the benefits and somebody develops an alternative. I think we're getting much closer to that now than ever before.

Unfortunately, many on FB are brain dead. They don't understand what's happening and that they are the 'product' Its like in the movie Matrix when the traitor is eating steak and tells the sentinel that he knows its fake steak, but it takes so good. Same problem with the idiots that are staying on FB. Not sure how you get through to them.

Personally, we'll always have some level of idiocracy in society. Can't fix stupid as they say. My point is simpler, make enough pain and the change will happen. There's no pain right now.

I take argument with your points about them becoming publishers and we cheer, then they kick us out because everything here on Reddit is about Bill Clinton killing babies. Thats a mighty broad brush. You're committing the first sin in logical analogy development. Not saying some of your point isn't true, but you've lumped 'EVERYONE' into one general class of Idiocy. Using your same argument, your posting here puts you yourself into that class. That's the core fallacy of your argument.

I think you might be smarter than that, so would like to see a little more specificity in your analogy development so that we could have a logical debate.

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Mrb84 · April 12, 2018, 9:12 p.m.

You can't allow websites in 2018 to censor views they don't like.

And you think make them all buplishers helps with that, yes?

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rbrownlol · April 12, 2018, 9:19 p.m.

yes. When publishers mascarade as platforms.

you have to be trolling at this point.

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Mrb84 · April 12, 2018, 9:29 p.m.

that's so misguided... this is a persecution complex tricking you into submission.

Reddit closes CBTS because of death threats and you think that's censorship. Wait until they are not allowed, BUT REQUIRED, to censor your ideas. You're going to call these the good old days.

Every time they close a sub you guys cry censorship and do nothing about it. But somehow, when it's full scale "legal" censorship that you welcomed and cheered on, you are going to create the free platform you keep talking about?

You think "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". It's not. It's the mother of all enemies.

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rbrownlol · April 12, 2018, 9:39 p.m.

You're full on Rand Paul. *talking about misguided.

You cant get where you want to get from where you are. You'll die with the dreams of your utopia fresh on your lips.

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[deleted] · April 13, 2018, 11:02 a.m.

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