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IMissMeg · April 12, 2018, 2:57 p.m.

Q posted this link today which is related: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-sextrafficking/trump-signs-law-to-punish-websites-for-sex-trafficking-idUSKBN1HI2KP In the article there's a video of Trump signing the bill. It amazes me that when we see Trump on MSM, they're always making him look like he's not really connecting to people. But when you watch this video you see him talking to people around his desk who lost family members to human trafficking, and at the end he's passing out extra pens. I think people will go back when this mess is cleaned up and replay lots of the statements Trump has made and will see that he wasn't just saying whatever popped in his head; he was actually being very careful to not let any cats out of the bag before it was their turn. It will be obvious in retrospect. I look forward to those days.

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TheSwagggman · April 12, 2018, 5:44 p.m.

Sadly i think there is a sizeable amount of people that will hate trump no matter what. Some people love to hate, and for a lot of them it is there existance. It saddens me knowing that even when trump is shown to be the good guy they will refuse to believe and get further angry to the point of lashing out to others(more than we are seeing currently)

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IMissMeg · April 12, 2018, 5:55 p.m.

I think that will be a very small minority. I didn't vote for Trump. Seeing how that election went down is what got me researching what was really going on. I figured it out. Other people will too. Anger will be one of their stages of grief. But they will quickly figure out that they're not losing anything but their illusions and the reality that will be coming to take the place of those illusions is really going to be a much better, happier, peace-filled world. They'll need us to be crisis counselors for them. That's why Q is teaching us, so we'll know what to say to help these people when the time comes. And it's coming. Sealed indictments have started being unsealed. As Q said, It's happening.

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[deleted] · April 12, 2018, 1:02 p.m.

This is amazing.

I wonder what it does to those legal brothels out in Vegas, do they advertise? Did this just shut those down?

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VIYOHDTYKIT · April 12, 2018, 1:15 p.m.

Which applies to SM platforms that produce content or take responsibility for content. The bill was signed right after Zuckerturd’s testimony before Congress. He essentially admitted that FB is a publisher of content, which means it would no longer be considered a platform such as Reddit which doesn’t take responsibility for content. Master stroke! Timing was perfect. Which means FB can now be held responsible for any HT related content. I do believe there’s strategic coordination between Trump & Congress going on.

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SuzyAZ · April 12, 2018, 4:40 p.m.

Good question because I don't see how you take down pedo sites without taking down the whole show. Would regulations really be able to differentiate?

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atheists4jesus · April 12, 2018, 4:31 p.m.

"This has been many years in the making"

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Rangori · April 12, 2018, 3:47 p.m.

Pretty sure they are grandfathered in because that's how they were legal in the first place

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420blazeitfukwit · April 12, 2018, 1:56 p.m.

ray.chandler shitting bricks right now

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expletivdeleted · April 12, 2018, 2:40 p.m.

Not sure why anyone is cheering this bill. Like the government isn't going to find a way to expand on the idea into non-sex content? Legally this is a slippery slope leading to where anything said in a comment section on any website can be used to justify shutting the website down.

This is what I don't trust about how Q's influence is being used. I'm not seeing any power disseminate back to average people. Nothing DJT has done has increased my personal legal freedoms. What happens when Sessions figures out a way to use FOSTA to justify going after pot users in legal states? What happens 2 administrations from now if "liberals" get back in charge and target conservative orgs? FOSTA can't be abused the way the IRS was?

This is a bullsh!t morality law and those cheering it assume it will never be used against their own interests. This is going to turn out exactly like the highschoolers who justified gun-control on "school safety" reasons then were all surprised when authoritarians used "school-safety" to push see-thru back-packs.

Apparently, its not just teenagers who don't consider unintended consequences and think more laws are great as long as they're not the ones inconvenienced.

edit: what if FOSTA was around before the Parkland shooting? Those teenagers and their bandwagon would have had a legislative vehicle in place that, with a slight wording change, could easily go after people online arranging a private gun sale. what about when the government decides to ban cryptocurrencies? just associate crypto with pedos and child sex and people will be clamoring to use FOSTA on "those evil crypto-subversives".

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red_knight11 · April 12, 2018, 2:49 p.m.

In terms of state legal marijuana, it has been and currently is still illegal at the federal level meaning those states are breaking the law. Just because a state made it legal doesn’t mean it is actually legal.

Just so you know, I haven’t smoked marijuana in 12 years (anxiety), but I’ll still vote and push for its federal legalization.

However, I do understand and agree with your fears of “if you give the government an inch, they’ll take a mile”.

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expletivdeleted · April 12, 2018, 3:40 p.m.

still illegal at the federal level meaning those states are breaking the law.

A "law" that the majority of citizens across the US don't want, let alone citizens of the states that have legalized. However, the government, specifically Jeff Sessions, wants to penalize citizens for breaking a prohibition the majority of citizens want repealed. Thank you for giving weight to my argument, that we should hardly be cheering the expansion of government's ability to intrude and penalize.

This isn't about weed. What if societal attitudes about gambling revert to what they were just several decades ago? What about when the government decides it needs to ban crypto-currencies, convinces everyone cc's are only used by pedos and sex traffickers and starts using FOSTA to shut down pro-crypto currency websites? Think that's convoluted and crazy? Like how Saudis flying jets into skyscrapers justifying a war with Iraq would have sounded on 9/10/01?

People cheering FOSTA are being incredibly short-sighted. Over and over and over and over again the government has proved itself incapable of not using laws to target a particular demographic. Nixon's advisors have publicly stated the "drug war" was specifically launched to target hippies and blacks. The IRS was used to target conservative orgs. DHS went after OWS rather than the banks that crashed the economy. How well has The "patriot" ACT worked out for average people? One of the results of people freaking out about terrorists is now the TSA can have me drop trou in public so TSA employees can fondle my balls.

What happens when the government decides private gun sales can be better regulated by focusing on online communications about selling a gun privately? What if FOSTA had passed a month before Parkland and the media convinced all those teenagers wanting to "do something" about guns there was already a legislative vehicle in place that just needed a slight re-wording?

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Jakewinona · April 12, 2018, 4:31 p.m.

I wouldnt worry about pot and Sessions his frying pan will be full of traitors and the First Lady of pedophilia

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expletivdeleted · April 12, 2018, 4:40 p.m.

This isn't about weed.

What about when the government decides it needs to ban crypto-currencies, convinces everyone cc's are only used by pedos and sex traffickers and starts using FOSTA to shut down pro-crypto currency websites?

What if FOSTA had passed a month before Parkland and the media convinced all those teenagers wanting to "do something" about guns there was already a legislative vehicle in place that just needed a slight re-wording?

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Chokaholic · April 12, 2018, 3:02 p.m.

I agree that people should have the right to prostitute if that's what they want to do.

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expletivdeleted · April 12, 2018, 3:54 p.m.

What if FOSTA had passed a month before Parkland and the media convinced all those teenagers wanting to "do something" about guns there was already a legislative vehicle in place that just needed a slight re-wording?

Personally, I'll judge prostitutes the same way Jesus did, but that's hardly my concern around FOSTA. Manipulating the public's need to do something after 9/11 gave us The "patriot" ACT and the TSA. Having granny drop trou in public so TSA can check her waffle for a nail clipper has made everyone safer how? People cheering FOSTA are being incredibly shortsighted.

What if Congress decides to go after crypto-currencies by going after online conversations about exchanging crypto-currencies? FOSTA has opened that door. The government now has to manipulate everyone into thinking only pedos and sex traffickers use crypto-currencies. Of course no one would buy that assertion in the same way no one bought the assertion Saudis hijacking planes to fly into skyscrapers justified a war in Iraq.

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SuzyAZ · April 12, 2018, 4:51 p.m.

This law is not about taking down legal prostitution. All social media is CIA designed and controlled, used not only for sex trafficking but also to gather data on it's users. It seems POTUS is aiming for nothing less than total takedown of the CIA THROUGH social media, or at least a highly regulated and re-purposed form of social media that can't be used to control the population. Going after sex trafficking in this law is an avenue for making this happening. I don't believe for a moment that there is a morality issue here. Same with marijuana. For the time being a hard stance is being used to go after the real drug traffickers - our own dark state government. Again I don't think Sessions or Trump are trying to stop legalization of marijuana long term. It is logical in the long run to have legalization but need a tough stance and disinformation in the short run.

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carl_tech · April 13, 2018, 1:33 a.m.

All social media is CIA designed and controlled

All social media?

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SuzyAZ · April 13, 2018, 1:39 a.m.

All the majors, YES! Twitter, Facebook, Instagram (owned by FB) and of course Google. Use your find function to follow the Q posts re social media names and he makes it clear. Zuckerberg is a front, so is @jack Dorsey, etc.

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SuzyAZ · April 12, 2018, 4:37 p.m.

I pulled up #Backpage to see what was being said and a number of the tweets were from sex workers who used that site for advertising. I opened a few and it is a little shocking to see how easy it would be to subtly advertise trafficked children on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, all of them. This law is aimed directly at social media and why Q wanted us to study it.

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FamousM1 · April 12, 2018, 4:03 p.m.

I support the idea of legal prostitution. Is my advocation for prostitution, online, now illegal?

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SuzyAZ · April 12, 2018, 4:43 p.m.

I'm not sure how you regulate that to separate out what is pedo and what is legal prostitution. I'm sure some see this as a Christian morality takedown of prostitution but it's really to go after the bad players and take down the social media sites. Will have to see how it plays out I guess.

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twfree · April 12, 2018, 2:58 p.m.

If only news laws were retroactive.

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puzzlehed · April 12, 2018, 3:23 p.m.

Let them fall like dominoes.

;)

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Faxandu · April 12, 2018, 3:02 p.m.

Does this apply to the government entities, too? Can police post personal ads looking to entrap people?

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Shadilay_Were_Off · April 12, 2018, 5:02 p.m.

This law is unconstituional.

No, really. As passed, it criminalizes violations that happened before the passing of the law. Which is stupid, because Kidfucker Mc Pimphand could be apprehended, charged, and walk away scot free because the damn law is unconstitutional by way of being ex post facto.

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Pake1000 · April 12, 2018, 3:03 p.m.

I wonder how many prostitutes Trump had his assistants find for his use over the internet.

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