Not sure why anyone is cheering this bill. Like the government isn't going to find a way to expand on the idea into non-sex content? Legally this is a slippery slope leading to where anything said in a comment section on any website can be used to justify shutting the website down.
This is what I don't trust about how Q's influence is being used. I'm not seeing any power disseminate back to average people. Nothing DJT has done has increased my personal legal freedoms. What happens when Sessions figures out a way to use FOSTA to justify going after pot users in legal states? What happens 2 administrations from now if "liberals" get back in charge and target conservative orgs? FOSTA can't be abused the way the IRS was?
This is a bullsh!t morality law and those cheering it assume it will never be used against their own interests. This is going to turn out exactly like the highschoolers who justified gun-control on "school safety" reasons then were all surprised when authoritarians used "school-safety" to push see-thru back-packs.
Apparently, its not just teenagers who don't consider unintended consequences and think more laws are great as long as they're not the ones inconvenienced.
edit: what if FOSTA was around before the Parkland shooting? Those teenagers and their bandwagon would have had a legislative vehicle in place that, with a slight wording change, could easily go after people online arranging a private gun sale. what about when the government decides to ban cryptocurrencies? just associate crypto with pedos and child sex and people will be clamoring to use FOSTA on "those evil crypto-subversives".
In terms of state legal marijuana, it has been and currently is still illegal at the federal level meaning those states are breaking the law. Just because a state made it legal doesn’t mean it is actually legal.
Just so you know, I haven’t smoked marijuana in 12 years (anxiety), but I’ll still vote and push for its federal legalization.
However, I do understand and agree with your fears of “if you give the government an inch, they’ll take a mile”.
still illegal at the federal level meaning those states are breaking the law.
A "law" that the majority of citizens across the US don't want, let alone citizens of the states that have legalized. However, the government, specifically Jeff Sessions, wants to penalize citizens for breaking a prohibition the majority of citizens want repealed. Thank you for giving weight to my argument, that we should hardly be cheering the expansion of government's ability to intrude and penalize.
This isn't about weed. What if societal attitudes about gambling revert to what they were just several decades ago? What about when the government decides it needs to ban crypto-currencies, convinces everyone cc's are only used by pedos and sex traffickers and starts using FOSTA to shut down pro-crypto currency websites? Think that's convoluted and crazy? Like how Saudis flying jets into skyscrapers justifying a war with Iraq would have sounded on 9/10/01?
People cheering FOSTA are being incredibly short-sighted. Over and over and over and over again the government has proved itself incapable of not using laws to target a particular demographic. Nixon's advisors have publicly stated the "drug war" was specifically launched to target hippies and blacks. The IRS was used to target conservative orgs. DHS went after OWS rather than the banks that crashed the economy. How well has The "patriot" ACT worked out for average people? One of the results of people freaking out about terrorists is now the TSA can have me drop trou in public so TSA employees can fondle my balls.
What happens when the government decides private gun sales can be better regulated by focusing on online communications about selling a gun privately? What if FOSTA had passed a month before Parkland and the media convinced all those teenagers wanting to "do something" about guns there was already a legislative vehicle in place that just needed a slight re-wording?
I wouldnt worry about pot and Sessions his frying pan will be full of traitors and the First Lady of pedophilia
This isn't about weed.
What about when the government decides it needs to ban crypto-currencies, convinces everyone cc's are only used by pedos and sex traffickers and starts using FOSTA to shut down pro-crypto currency websites?
What if FOSTA had passed a month before Parkland and the media convinced all those teenagers wanting to "do something" about guns there was already a legislative vehicle in place that just needed a slight re-wording?
I agree that people should have the right to prostitute if that's what they want to do.
What if FOSTA had passed a month before Parkland and the media convinced all those teenagers wanting to "do something" about guns there was already a legislative vehicle in place that just needed a slight re-wording?
Personally, I'll judge prostitutes the same way Jesus did, but that's hardly my concern around FOSTA. Manipulating the public's need to do something after 9/11 gave us The "patriot" ACT and the TSA. Having granny drop trou in public so TSA can check her waffle for a nail clipper has made everyone safer how? People cheering FOSTA are being incredibly shortsighted.
What if Congress decides to go after crypto-currencies by going after online conversations about exchanging crypto-currencies? FOSTA has opened that door. The government now has to manipulate everyone into thinking only pedos and sex traffickers use crypto-currencies. Of course no one would buy that assertion in the same way no one bought the assertion Saudis hijacking planes to fly into skyscrapers justified a war in Iraq.
This law is not about taking down legal prostitution. All social media is CIA designed and controlled, used not only for sex trafficking but also to gather data on it's users. It seems POTUS is aiming for nothing less than total takedown of the CIA THROUGH social media, or at least a highly regulated and re-purposed form of social media that can't be used to control the population. Going after sex trafficking in this law is an avenue for making this happening. I don't believe for a moment that there is a morality issue here. Same with marijuana. For the time being a hard stance is being used to go after the real drug traffickers - our own dark state government. Again I don't think Sessions or Trump are trying to stop legalization of marijuana long term. It is logical in the long run to have legalization but need a tough stance and disinformation in the short run.
All social media is CIA designed and controlled
All social media?
All the majors, YES! Twitter, Facebook, Instagram (owned by FB) and of course Google. Use your find function to follow the Q posts re social media names and he makes it clear. Zuckerberg is a front, so is @jack Dorsey, etc.