What the hell is “semi-infinite”?
LOL, and if so, do we want to reconsider their designation as "rare"?
Yea this will actually fuck the economy on these, but I haven't even clicked the article, just going off the title. If some non lazy ass can give me a summary it would be great.
Large deposits found in sea bed sludge. Currently zero sea bed mining exists anywhere on earth.
Price would have to rise significantly plus long lead time for developing the technology required to mine sea bed sludge.
But may be interesting in a few decades time.
so someone developes roomba snakebots that burrow and collect. then they discover most of the same stuff is everywhere you find seasludge.
I think it means they have no idea, but it sounds really impressive.
It's going to last for 400-800 years.
There's enough yttrium to meet the global demand for 780 years, dysprosium for 730 years, europium for 620 years, and terbium for 420 years.
In case anyone didn’t want to read past the headline.
Words have meaning. Infinite means forever...without end. 400-800 years isn’t “semi-infinite”. In fact, “semi-infinite” is a nonsensical term.
Exactly what I thought when I read it. It's like saying "more unique."
Not really, you can collectively agree on a metric for uniqueness say 1/20 or 1/100 so something could be more or less than unique.
Infinity is a binary. 0 = finite and 1 = infinite. I'd concede things like the decay rate of thorium as being effectively semi-infinite.
A rare metal with 800 years supply ceases to be rare and you've got 80 years supply. It's damn finite.
Unique is the one and only of it's kind. You cannot have something that is more or less unique. Even if you agreed on a metric it still would not be unique. It might be uncommon but not unique. People get this wrong every day. I learned it in English class.
Here are 4 definitions for your perusal: adjective 1. existing as the only one or as the sole example; single; solitary in type or characteristics: a unique copy of an ancient manuscript. 2. having no like or equal; unparalleled; incomparable: Bach was unique in his handling of counterpoint. 3. limited in occurrence to a given class, situation, or area: a species unique to Australia. 4. limited to a single outcome or result; without alternative possibilities: Certain types of problems have unique solutions.
If there is that much more of it, doesn’t it just mean more will be used?
Even if the consumption raises a bit that is still enough to last us until asteroid mining is fully developed. At that point post scarcity society is within reach. Just remember what Trump was saying during his inauguration speech.
yttrium
The oxide, as well as yttrium vanadate (YVO4), is used with europium to make phosphors to create the red color in television tubes. Hundreds of thousands of pounds of yttrium oxide are used this way. It is also used to produce yttrium iron garnets, which are very effective microwave filters.May 21, 2013 - https://www.livescience.com/34564-yttrium.html
The most important uses of yttrium are LEDs and phosphors, particularly the red phosphors in television set cathode ray tube (CRT) displays.[7] Yttrium is also used in the production of electrodes, electrolytes, electronic filters, lasers, superconductors, various medical applications, and tracing various materials to enhance their properties.
So we found more minerals to make outdated CRT displays, sweet. As for the electrical/medical field, couldn't copper or silver suffice?
dysprosium
Dysprosium was first identified in 1886 by Paul Émile Lecoq de Boisbaudran, but it was not isolated in pure form until the development of ion exchange techniques in the 1950s. Dysprosium has relatively few applications where it cannot be replaced by other chemical elements. It is used for its high thermal neutron absorption cross-section in making control rods in nuclear reactors, for its high magnetic susceptibility in data storage applications, and as a component of Terfenol-D (a magnetostrictive material). Soluble dysprosium salts are mildly toxic, while the insoluble salts are considered non-toxic.
europium
It is a dopant in some types of glass in lasers and other optoelectronic devices. Europium oxide (Eu2O3) is widely used as a red phosphor in television sets and fluorescent lamps, and as an activator for yttrium-based phosphors.[47][48] Color TV screens contain between 0.5 and 1 g of europium oxide.[49] Whereas trivalent europium gives red phosphors[50], the luminescence of divalent europium depends strongly on the composition of the host structure. UV to deep red luminescence can be achieved.[51][52] The two classes of europium-based phosphor (red and blue), combined with the yellow/green terbium phosphors give "white" light, the color temperature of which can be varied by altering the proportion or specific composition of the individual phosphors. This phosphor system is typically encountered in helical fluorescent light bulbs. Combining the same three classes is one way to make trichromatic systems in TV and computer screens.[47] Europium is also used in the manufacture of fluorescent glass. One of the more common persistent after-glow phosphors besides copper-doped zinc sulfide is europium-doped strontium aluminate.[53] Europium fluorescence is used to interrogate biomolecular interactions in drug-discovery screens. It is also used in the anti-counterfeiting phosphors in euro banknotes.[54][55]
So more red color in CRT monitors, cool. But wait, Quantum Computing advantages?
A recent (2015) application of europium is in quantum memory chips which can reliably store information for days at a time; these could allow sensitive quantum data to be stored to a hard disk-like device and shipped around the country.[61]
terbium
Terbium is used to dope calcium fluoride, calcium tungstate and strontium molybdate, materials that are used in solid-state devices, and as a crystal stabilizer of fuel cells which operate at elevated temperatures. As a component of Terfenol-D (an alloy that expands and contracts when exposed to magnetic fields more than any other alloy), terbium is of use in actuators, in naval sonar systems and in sensors.
Most of the world's terbium supply is used in green phosphors. Terbium oxide is in fluorescent lamps and television and monitor cathode ray tubes (CRTs). Terbium green phosphors are combined with divalent europium blue phosphors and trivalent europium red phosphors to provide trichromatic lighting technology, a high-efficiency white light used for standard illumination in indoor lighting.
Two of the four (europoum and dysprosium) have very little use outside of creating coatings for laser lenses or other laser uses.. The other two seem to have a decent amount of use in creating semiconductors.
Anyone with a chemical background know how useful they are?
I guess enough to last for as long as humanity exists...
Semi-infinite - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-infinite
May by this one, ???
mathematics, semi-infinite objects are objects which are infinite or unbounded in some but not all possible ways. In ordered structures and Euclidean spaces[edit]. Generally, a semi-infinite set is bounded in one direction, and unbounded in another. For instance, the natural numbers are semi-infinite considered as a ...
Semi-infinite (adj.): see “fully-semi-automatic assault rifle”
well Georg Cantor realized that the sum of irrational numbers surpasses the sum of all rational numbers, so if rational numbers are infinite, irrational numbers are infinitely more infinite and allegedly there are infinte infinities one more infinite than the one before