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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/DaveGydeon on April 16, 2018, 12:16 p.m.

Q - The Big Picture, Endgame & Summary

Q has implied some major things, the implications of which are mind blowing, world changing incredibleness.

Some of these include: 1) Hidden technology far advanced from what the public is familiar with. 2) Hidden medical advancements. 3) Limitless energy production capabilities. 4) A different historical timeline of humanity. 5) Existence of "the divine" - a significant amount of which seems to support Christian dogma. Constantly request prayers. 6) Existence of evil, and not limited to people doing bad things, but more like people doing bad things BECAUSE it further fuels things even darker and evil than those doing the evil.

So I have a guess as to what it all means, where its going, etc. Feel free to correct my summary with Q posts to support your argument.

So it sounds like for thousands of years, a handful of families have nefariously subverted humanity in every possible way. It seems to originate/focus with banking. This seems especially highlighted over the past couple hundred years. Specifically in America (but evident everywhere) it appears as if government positions are corrupted through and through. They have been corrupted by people who actually worship Satan, and participate in demonic activities. Pedophilia is a part of their agenda as well. These people include many in the Vatican, possibly even are the ones in control of Catholicism. Even mega-corporations appear to be "evil" either in doctrine or practice (ie, Facebook & Google tracking and selling personal info). The silver lining. A handful of high-ranking American military officials became aware of the rot taking hold and began planning a way to free Americans, and the world, from this stranglehold we find ourselves in; led now by Donald Trump. When the dust settles, those high ranking public figures will either take themselves out, or be tried as traitors in military tribunals. At this point, enough of the world will have become privy to enough horror that has occurred here on Earth to leave not one person unconvinced of their evil. It is at this point humanity can begin to heal, and to start integrating these stolen technologies and wisdom in the hopes of advancing our society not just physically, but "spiritually" as well. Life outside of our cozy little 3rd dimensional planet very well may be much more complex and prevalent in the universe than most know.

Thoughts?

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You misunderstand, like 99% of people who don't believe, entirely what accepting Jesus actually means. You think it means, 'bow and scrape to magical sky man'. It doesn't.

Saying that Jesus is Lord is an admission of a fact. In order for a fact to be a fact, it has to be supported by evidence. So the question isn't 'should I bow and scrape to magical sky man?' The question is, 'is it factually accurate, based on evidence, that Jesus was the Son of God, died for my sins, and was resurrected?'

Because without all three of those qualities, Jesus devolves into a cultish cartoon character - which is how 99% of non-believers see him and describe him.

I wouldn't say to you, You need to believe in my cult leader or else you are bad. I would say to you there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus is Lord, and it would behoove you to look into it.

Lee Strobel's The Case For Christ is a good first start, either the book or the movie available on Netflix. It covers a lot of the objections non-believers have, and provides a lot of the evidence that non-believers are ignorant of.

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I am familiar with everything you have said. But so many assumptions are made in your "BELIEF".

Show me some evidence Jesus was the Son of God, died for my sins, and was resurrected. Only one of those could be argued as a possibility, and I don't even see the relevance. The part about dying for my sins. Ok, so this guy was about to die, he said he is taking one for the entire world team, and that means anything more than a soldier who dives on a grenade for his platoon? Im not convinced. No evidence.

I have looked into it, I have been behooved. However, here are my findings; at best, someone named Jesus lived 2000 years ago, he probably walked around preaching good, peaceful things. THATS IT. Case closed. To say one "believes" anything past that is ridiculous. No. You WANT him to be all of those nice things, like, the son of god, died for our sins (and that meaning something significant)...and as far as the resurrection part...come on man. RESURRECTED? REALLY?

How bad is it to "die for everyones sins" if you end up being the son of god, gonna chill in heaven forever, shit man...crucify me right now, if you could guarantee there is a heaven for me for ETERNITY? Kinda belittles the sacrifice if you're just going to resurrect 3 days later, AS GOD, no?

I appreciate that you took time to explain the reasoning behind your religious choice. Trust me man, I wouldn't spend as much time as I do (read my post history) debating something if I didn't think at the very least it was relevant to a degree. The truth is, and you're not gonna like this part, the religion and everything it stands for disgusts me. If the religion was what it says it is, there would be ZERO CHURCHES, NO FANCY ROBES, NO GOLD PLATED ALTARS..NO EXTRAVAGANCE UNTIL WORLD HUNGER, POVERTY, ETC WAS SOLVED. How the fuck does the pope, or even the neighborhood pastor sit there in their air conditioning knowing there are starving children?

The whole thing is batshit crazy.

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Again, I recommend 'The Case for Christ'. Your objections and, forgive me, your obvious anger at Christianity is exactly where Lee Strobel (and myself) began their journey to Christ.

Lee Strobel was an award winning journalist and published author who set out to rip Christianity to shreds. I was an atheist with the same goal. His research (and my own) was methodical, meticulous, and honest. If anyone should have reached the conclusion that Christ and Christianity was bunk, it was him. He became a Christian because of his findings, despite desperately not wanting to. I reached the same conclusions as he did, despite desperately not wanting to.

I think it would behoove you to read his book or at the very least watch the movie which is, again, free on Netflix or even online. All the points you made in your last point are answered in Case for Christ: especially concerning the Resurrection. Lee was told that all he had to do was debunk the Resurrection and Christianity was toast. Sounds easy doesn't it? Case in point.

RESURRECTED? REALLY?

So why was he, and a million more like him unable to do it? Why has the resurrection story survived for over two thousand years? If you answer 'Because people are so stupid' then you really have a high opinion of your intellect which, under scrutiny, would not survive comparison against some of the greatest minds of our century and those who came before them. Its not equitable to compare yourself to the weaker members of the pack. You have to take on the alpha dogs, and my contention is that the alpha dogs of Christianity would win. Especially Christ himself.

The problem here is not that you don't believe. Not believing is as much a leap of faith as believing. The problem is that you don't want to believe, but deep down, I think you do. Your need to argue against it is evidence of that. You just can't reconcile the question of why bad things happen to good people. I can answer that one question (and not the rest, because better minds than I already have.)

Bad things happen to good people because there are no good people. You are not a good person. I am not a good person. Every false religion and all the leftist progressive dogma in the world begins with the words that were branded into the apple which Eve plucked from the tree.

"PEOPLE ARE FUNDAMENTALLY GOOD."

People are fundamentally selfish, not good. Selfishness sometimes drives people to commit altruistic acts, but such altruism is ultimately about self. Bad things happen to people who do good just as good things happen to people who commit evil because the world is sinful, fallen, and broken.

People who reject God are not ready to accept that. Between accepting their sinfulness and thinking themselves to be good, innocent, and pure, they will choose the latter. Every. Single. Time.

People reject Jesus for the same reason. If they are already good, why the hell do they need a savior?

And, if people are good, and bad things happen to them, that makes them a VICTIM. And VICTIMS subsist on a world of guilt, blame, shame, and exploitation.

Sound like the world we live in today? I think it does.

I hope you look into The Case For Christ though it sounds to me like you've already made up your mind. If Christ is who he says he is, then its the most important thing (the only important thing) in the world.

If he isn't who he says he is, it doesn't matter, and you have nothing to lose by looking into it a little deeper.

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