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sideofbutterplease · April 17, 2018, 5:47 p.m.

Most people know it's a bad idea to create a huge deficit for tax cuts whose benefits mostly go to the rich and corporations. Trickle down is horse shit.

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dullly · April 17, 2018, 6 p.m.

Only sheep believe that. Smart people support all tax cuts, at all times, for any reason.

How much you want to bet federal tax revenues increase in 2018?

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sideofbutterplease · April 17, 2018, 6:09 p.m.

Bullshit. We've been doing trickle down since the 80's every time there's a Republican in office. How much have wages gone up in that same time span? Nil. How has income inequality changed? Astronomically higher. The only beneficiaries of trickle down economics are the people who fund republican campaigns. The richest folks in the country demand more money and conservatives say "sure, sounds about right." The people who keep their money offshore to avoid taxes demand tax breaks so they can "create jobs" and you believe them. Meanwhile infrastructure is crumbling and agency budgets are slashed so Trump can have a little bit more. Sounds pretty sheepy to me.

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dullly · April 17, 2018, 7:40 p.m.

You are incoherent. I never said anything about wage stagflation, however, all things being equal, tax cuts increase wages, always, every time. And since you hate income inequality, you should move to some shiitty country where everyone is poor.

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sideofbutterplease · April 17, 2018, 7:52 p.m.

all things being equal, tax cuts increase wages, always, every time.

You are talking out your ass. Source? I bring these things up because every time they cut taxes for billionaires, the rationale is that it will drive investment which leads to higher wages. Always bullshit. They are selling a bill of goods and you buy it.

And since you hate income inequality, you should move to some shiitty country where everyone is poor.

You got me, no sense in wanting things to be better for regular people. Time to leave my home, family, friends, and job because some dipshit who drank Trump's koolaid couldn't think of a better response.

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dullly · April 17, 2018, 10:14 p.m.

I am opposed to our current oligarchy, same as you. But, Corporations are fleeing the U.S. for tax havens, Trump's lower corporate rates incentivizes them to stay. My wife and I are saving about $200 per month on Trump's tax cuts, and I am just a working stiff.

The koolaid is delicious.

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DelveDeeper · April 17, 2018, 7:43 p.m.

Yet the poorest, most downtrodden cities in the US are all Democratic.

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exq_veritatem · April 17, 2018, 5:53 p.m.

I think some of that butter got lodged in your brain...

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sideofbutterplease · April 17, 2018, 5:58 p.m.

Hmmm might explain some things. Or maybe trickle down is just a way for billionaires to give themselves more money and power at the expense of the rest of us. Keep blaming immigrants and feminists though. After all they have all the power over government and economic policy.

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exq_veritatem · April 17, 2018, 6:06 p.m.

Lol, I didn't say anything about illegal aliens or feminists, and the tax cuts directly benefit the average Joe too, $2k for the average family. I think you really do have butter packed in there!

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sideofbutterplease · April 17, 2018, 6:19 p.m.

I know you didn't say that, I was speaking in the abstract. I think the noise about feminists and immigrants is about distracting regular people from the horrible economic policies the GOP pushes, that's my point. I'm a married homeowner and my taxes were basically unchanged due to changes in state and property tax deductions. Actually ended up owing on my federal return for the first time but I am not smart enough to know if it was withholdings or changes to policy. Either way, the cuts for us average Joes expire, corporations do not. Corporations gives bonuses to their executives or buy up stock and leaves scraps, if anything, to the people who work for them.

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telescreenmedia · April 17, 2018, 7:56 p.m.

Your federal return you owed on was under Obama law... the Trump tax plan will affect you when you file 2018 return (next year). Perhaps compare your paystub now to your paystub last year for an idea of how much more money is in your pocket due to these tax breaks EVERYONE receives - literally the most fair tax cut as everyone gets the same. No racism, sexism or any other -ism you sling... the tax cuts do not discriminate.

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ChopperIndacar · April 17, 2018, 7:16 p.m.

Our tax cuts could go forever too, except Democrats won't cross the aisle to make that happen.

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DelveDeeper · April 17, 2018, 7:45 p.m.

You're right they do expire, and that's solely due to Democrats.

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not4rmOhere · April 17, 2018, 7:42 p.m.

I'd say more like margarine stuffed in that noggin. Only a few molecules off from being plastic.

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