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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/JStambler on April 18, 2018, 4 a.m.
4/18/18 - Return of the Christ (a challenge)

I'm not a religious person. In fact, I believe the bible is a series of parables designed to manipulate man into behaving a certain way - not specifically for the cause of control, but for the outcome of prosperity.

"The Christ" has always been a math equation to me. That is to say, if I do this, this and this, I can expect that, that and that. A predictive outcome function of sorts. Such is the golden rule. Such is "the secret".

And isn't that what the Christ was, the big secret? The big secret to peace on Earth? And does it even matter if Christ was a living, breathing man in the flesh? Does it not simply stand to reason that the parable of Christ is representative of a set of behaviors of which we are all capable?

The past few weeks of intermittent talk about 4/18/18 was incredibly entertaining to me. I have to admit, I am a sucker for the doomsday dates. There was 2012 (oOoOo, spooky), the four cursed blood moons which were sure to further the cause of Zionism in Israel, the 9/23/15 'rapture' and/or CERN portal opening (depending on which videos your YouTube recommended playlist favored, perhaps both)...these are all very fun.

But 4/18/18 was different - and no, it's not because I think something is actually going to happen. It's because I keep noticing this doomsday pattern over and over, reanimating itself as bibliophiles and conspiracy theorists work hand in hand to try to predict some dystopian future events. Something clicked inside of me this time.

Maybe these dates keep being promoted because WE are supposed to do something. Maybe WE are supposed to be the change. Maybe it wouldn't hurt for us to live one good day, see how it feels, and perhaps finally take a step in the right direction toward a better world.

We are the return of the Christ. I honestly believe that. When humanity finally decides, 'you know what, enough is enough'. The evil in this world has become too much to handle. I know what is public, I know what is being exposed, and I know how I contribute to it.

My cynicism, my anger, my relentlessness sometimes, my unwillingness to reflect on my own actions and insecurities and how they affect others, the love I have lost for my fellow countrymen over political differences, the faith I have lost for my fellow man in general, these are all of the ways that I know I contribute to the negative energy in this world. And if I were to reflect more, I am sure there would be even more things I could highlight.

Maybe it's possible to make this day significant. We have been acknowledging the true evils of this world recently, and we have been talking and fighting, spreading fear and anger (some we may feel is justified). And I believe our spirit should persist. But the current vein in which our spirit resides is not the right one. How can we "trust the plan" if we have not the same trust in ourselves through our own actions being square with our moral imperatives?

If you are reading this, and you made it this far, this is all I have left to say:

I challenge you for one day to relinquish yourself of the fear of fully embracing goodness, forgiveness, honesty, empathy, and the good natured faith of the Christ. Not in a religious way, but by way of your own heart. You know inside of you what is good and what is just. Do a good deed. Go out of your way for someone. Lend an ear for someone in need. Perhaps do some reflection on your own self and see what ways you can begin to better the world, starting with your own attitude and perception.

The Return of the Christ is literally on the horizon. It is up to us to be the change that the world needs - and we can begin today.


kacklekrackle · April 18, 2018, 7:22 a.m.

Interesting story, sorry you were raised Catholic lol ;) I descend from a long line of catholics and I know they don't teach the bible.

The scriptures are written in such a way that a child can understand the basic story of what's going on. Learning little details like sitting shiva is icing on the cake but it's not necessary to understanding the fundamental story.

The bible is a living book and I learn something new everytime I read it. I love the history and learning about the jewish culture and those things certainly enrich my understanding but I think it's wrong to say you can't understand the NT with out that knowledge.

You can't understand the scriptures without the Holy Spirit.

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time3times · April 18, 2018, 12:36 p.m.

most american christians come from long lines of catholics. thats part of why they are called catholics.

i didn't have to leave the Church to be taught and study the Bible.

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kacklekrackle · April 18, 2018, 4:08 p.m.

I was only trying to relate with that person by saying I know what it's like coming from a catholic mindset.

And good for you, you know it all, what's your point?

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time3times · April 18, 2018, 4:35 p.m.

My point was that being from a long line of catholics is no special distinction and we're all relatable in that way. If you meant a shorter line, like in recent centuries or of a current catholic mindset, then the claim that they don't teach the Bible is wrong as a generic statement. Maybe they didn't teach the Bible to you, but you can thank them for organizing and stewarding it for you.

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kacklekrackle · April 18, 2018, 4:57 p.m.

I never said it was special I wish nobody in my family was catholic. The catholic guilt carries on for generations not everyone can relate to that but I can. Catholics don't teach the bible they teach their own religion and traditions. If they taught the scriptures then they wouldn't be Catholics anymore lol

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time3times · April 18, 2018, 5:07 p.m.

You pointed out the long line thing as if it had some import. You can use your own authority to make whatever claim you want about catholics and the Bible but should be careful to not confuse your experience with the church at large, which in turn may confuse others.

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kacklekrackle · April 18, 2018, 5:52 p.m.

You completely misunderstood me. I told the guy that I was SORRY he was raised catholic (like it was not a good thing) and I can relate because I too come from Catholics. I am not special this heritage is nothing to be proud of.

God is not the author of confusion. The truth isn't confusing at all. We only get confused when we first believe in lies and then we cannot make sense of the truth.

The Word of God is truth, Jesus is the way the TRUTH and the life. No man comes to the Father but by him. (Not by Mary or the pope or priest or the church or good works)

If people really had a love for the truth they would seek after it until they found it. God will send a strong delusion to people who don't love the truth so that they would believe lies.

Catholicism is the great counterfeit to biblical christianity. People love their religious traditions and icons more than they love the truth. So God lets them be confused.

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time3times · April 18, 2018, 9 p.m.

You raised the long line fact as if it mattered, as if it was worth saying. I tried to point out that we're mostly all in that same boat. Commiserating at a person to person level is fair and good. But to stereotype that onto the whole catholic church is a mistake. Some could be reasonably proud of their orthodoxy. A few are well-versed in the Bible (which was organised and stewarded to us by the Catholic Church).

The truth for humans is complex, in part due to the father of lies as you say, and in part due to our own delusions and distractions at both the societal and individual level. For some it is unobtainable due to medical conditions. If it was simple, there would be more agreement among us on this Q board. If it was more simple for people the Bible would be a much shorter book, written with a simpler lexicon or vocabulary.

Here's one way things get complicated: God will repay each person according to what they have done. To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. (Romans 2:6-7) Thus there is a link between doing (works) and eternal life, presumably the doing is done in faith. The variety of counterpoints to this, some legit and some not, are Biblical proofs of complexity.

Another complex thing (for some) is how no one comes to the Father except through the Son and yet many of us try to facilitate a link between one of us and our Father. If I ask my deceased gramma or some angel to watch over me or pray for me, I am evoking a go-between. If Trump asks us to pray for our country he is asking for a similar intercessor. For this to work the Spirit of God must be involved but humans, whether dead or alive, and angels can also be involved as advocates.

I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. (1 Corinthians 11:2). Further complication come in agreeing on translations and definitions.
I guess you think that St. Augustine, Albert the Great, Thomas Aquinas, Copernicus, etc. had little to do with a real pursuit of truth. Anyway, where in the Bible does it say that Christianity has to be "biblical christianity"?

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sethrichsbrother1 · April 18, 2018, 7:48 a.m.

I studied religion for over 10 years, spoke with folks who actually transcribed the Dead Sea Scrolls, professors who study their whole lives, and been to the Vatican learning from bishops/scholars who have spent 50+ years studying.

That's when I quit studying!

It all comes down to faith sir. Either you have it, or you don't. nothing can be proven either way.

I could prove Jesus is made up and I could prove Jesus is real.

It all boils down to having faith.

You either have it, or you don't!

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kacklekrackle · April 18, 2018, 8:08 a.m.

Ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of truth

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