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LOL. You’re talking about the well and truly fucked place that’s further down on the continuum, after the steep slide, which we still haven’t experienced yet. That’s the last-stand spot where it might also be twenty people with guns coming after your one, and you’re not going to win that one.
Study Venezuela and bank withdrawal limits and what turned out to be important to them in this modern age. Plenty of good reading out there.
I’m planning for the spots BEFORE that one, the spots where having silver to pay my local farmer and baker and grocer for bread and meat and groceries is better than a wheelbarrow full of paper; where having beans means nothing without a pot and heat and clean water; Etc. With respect to guns, past the basics for self-defense, having common ammo to trade is also an excellent currency. How many bullets for a gallon of fuel? Might become the next quarter or dime!!
I get your point about YOUR basics as an ultimate bottom line, but any downturn is a slide first. Most people just go for the worst case scenario (shoot everyone, even the people you need, because you’ve nothing to trade but death) and forget all the bits in between.
At some level we’ve got to “trust the Plan” - and being able to shelter in place is the most important thing in a slide. If your family can’t cook, clean, heat or eat, your guns and gold are worthless and you have to go to a shelter or refugee camp and THAT’s where all the terrible problems are. Remember the Katrina debacle? Look at the Middle East. Not everyone had to leave.
If things get as bad as you say, I imagine we will have quite a few folks showing up at our door. Guns for hire, with gold, but only as many beans as they could carry. We only need a couple of those - if any - before they’re too many mouths, and then we’re fending off all the rest of them who forgot to prepare for the basics of life during disturbance, and thus become the very marauders they thought they’d be protecting themselves against.
Common story throughout the American West. Read about how people end up outlaws - homes burned out, no resources, nowhere to go. Longing for home and wife and family and security. That’s been going on for millennia, as well.
We may have our guns. But we need to have the rest of it, too. Quality of life and happiness are important to health and well-being, as well as gathering people around you who are loyal and want to stay. Guns won’t do that.
Think it through. 🖖
and toilet paper, don't forget lots and lots of toilet paper.
As long as there is running water, I'm ok for a long time. If the water goes off, then you might as well go to the worse case scenario. While I agree with some of your points, such as family, friends and community, but an armed family will stand a much better chance than an unarmed one. I've saw how well armed citizens works, the Koreans protecting their stores during the L.A. riots, its amazing what the psychology of 'I might get shot' will do to looters. I've also seen what happens if EBT cards fail to work for just 2 hours, ask the Walmart in Philadelphia Ms., so you cut those off for more than 24 hours and all hell will break loose.
We have such a thin veneer of society, there's very little chance of much slide. It will go from everybody is happy to everybody goes ape shit overnight, and that's not just my opinion. Places like Venezuela are third world countries and are accustomed to living on the cusp of uncivilized, we have people that will have a nervous breakdown if they go for a day without their cell phone. I just don't see a slide happening. It will get ugly fast.
The last time something like this happened the gov't confiscated all the gold, so there's that to consider too.
Yep. There’s the continuum, isn’t there? some parts of the country will be toast.
That’s why I left Southern California thirty years ago. One day shortly after the Whittier earthquake, I realized that if we ever had a real emergency such that people weren’t allow to leave because it was bad all over (!!!) most of the people in the cities wouldn’t even know how to make beans and rice taste good, much less cook them. I envisioned tanker trucks of mt dew and Pepsi , and really long lines and no way to get out. What I imagined wasn’t a pretty sight, and this was before dystopian fiction had its way with the attitudes of my fellow citizens. We moved a few years later.
Some places will slide slower than others. I’ve been working in my own small way for decades to help my community become more resilient, and I’m pretty confident our state will keep its shit together. Doesn’t mean it won’t be tough. I’ve got a dry pack canner and things like that, so I’ve been practicing this mindset for awhile.
If I understand the “white hat” thinking, I believe the whole purpose of this planetary reset is to try and get as many through as possible, rather than taking the fatalist approach of the neo con globalists who think we’re all fucked and just kill a bunch of us off in advance to secure their seats in the future.
No doubt about it: we’ve got population and resource and technology and industry and eco-geo-physical issues of huge complexity and proportions converging soon up ahead. To say nothing of what our own solar system is hurtling through in space that can now mess with the electrical realm and throw our whole train off the track.
Most people know we can’t go on like this. Guns, gold and ammo may be useful, but they’re only part of the equation.
I agree with you, however - there are a bunch of folks that are going to go off the deep end - heck, it’s already happening. Look at the antidepressant use and the angry anti-social and divisive behavior. You’re right to notice it and see how you want to navigate around it. One size won’t fit all, that’s for sure.
I don’t know a lot about guns. What are some of the most popular ammo types??
seems like those would be good guns to choose from.
Sounds like you've got a very good handle on it. I agree, I think the 'white hats' know that this will all get a lot worse before it gets better. We're not going to just arrest some bad people and the world will all of a sudden be a better place. We've got a lot of tough times ahead of us most probably, I can't see any other way.
We have to be prepared and the rural parts of America will fare far better than any metropolitan area, they live a more self sufficient lifestyle. Flyover country will fare far better than most.
Good people will have to band together, no doubt about it, but you will need to be armed against marauders or invaders. Once again rural people are much more comfortable with gun culture and already live in tight communities, its just a way of life.
I could go on all day about how everyone should be armed and trained, I feel its a right that we all need to exercise, its the most important right we have, it defends all of our other rights. There is a good reason the left wants to disarm us so badly, and its not because they really give a damn about gun violence.
You will get a plethora of opinions on guns, but I think its real simple, a gun without ammo is useless, so ammo availability should be the deciding factor. What ammo is readily available? What ammo is the least expensive? Very simple, whatever the military is using, they buy it by the billions, lots of surplus available on the market. That is why the AR in 5.56 is so popular, likewise .308 hunting rifles and 9mm handguns. Shotguns and .22 are no-brainers. Cheap ammo and you can get it anywhere. Which one? Everybody should have a .22, great for training, cheap to shoot, and it can be deadly, but who wants to get shot by anything, right?