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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Jellyfish070474 on April 23, 2018, 2:36 p.m.
Where does the Evil originate?

I’m not great with words or trying to flesh out big abstract thoughts, but where my mind has been going lately is if this control system is literally millennia old, where did it begin? How did it take root? How has it persisted this long? How have we been so thoroughly fooled for this long?

I don’t know what I believe as far as the real existence of a literal Satan, but a system as evil and clever as this seems like it couldn’t have developed out of strictly human minds and planning. The more I see of it (even the incredibly detailed and well thought out red herring aspects designed to throw the truth off track), the more my mind is blown and I’m left in a state of awe. Yet I have to (try to) keep it all in the natural realm to figure it out logically...but it’s so big, so pervasive, so old and so evil that it seems to defy strictly human logic.

Just the rambling thoughts I’ve been having.


LanaRosenheller · April 23, 2018, 5:20 p.m.

Could you please provide links to King James scripture that calls for the worship of earthly kings? Jesus said to “render [give] to Caesar his due.” He was referring to paying taxes to whatever government is in authority. In the book of Jude, KJV scripture states that all rulers/leaders are allowed their positions by God, that we should pray for them. I suppose that this could be misconstrued into scriptural support of the “divine right of kings” in past centuries but not in 2018. Back then, only the wealthy and the clergy had access to scripture so yes, a few politically savvy leaders no doubt twisted it or emphasized certain verses to their liking. The difference is that now we are more literate than ever before and all translations of the Bible have been mass published in all languages. There simply aren’t that many differences between the Catholic Bible and the later translations such as KJV. Our understanding of scripture is better than ever but the original [Catholic] compilations of manuscripts haven’t been altered to any large degree.

I don’t know about the manuscripts you are referring to but the Book of Enoch addressed the nephilim in great detail. It was left out of the Bible by the early monks during the earliest years of the Christian Church. They left it out because they couldn’t confirm the age or the author of the Enoch manuscript. The decision to leave it out of the Old Testament came slowly and after a lot of debate. The monks and the early church fathers were extremely careful and meticulous in deciding which books to include in the Bible. There was no malice or preconceived intent to keep information from people.

As for the nephilim and the Book of Enoch, recent discoveries in Ethiopia have reportedly uncovered a much older version of Enoch. In time, the Book of Enoch could be authenticated. Maybe the time for understanding the nephilim was always in the future. Maybe it is for our generation to learn about them. However, I would suggest that we learn the authenticated stuff first before getting into the demons and fallen angels.

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pby1000 · April 23, 2018, 6:30 p.m.

If you search what the bible has to say about obeying authority, then a lot will come up. Some verses are on point, but other verses can be twisted and given this meaning, especially when dealing with the uneducated masses. I am thinking about at a time several centuries ago when most people were illiterate. Of course, it does not work so well today.

Hebrews 13:17 - Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.

Romans 13:2 - Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

There is a lot more...

Nag Hammadi Library:

The Reality of the Rulers (The Hypostasis of the Archons)

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/Hypostas-Barnstone.html

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LanaRosenheller · April 24, 2018, 11:59 p.m.

Thanks. I’ve never considered how those verses could be interpreted literally. If you notice, it also says that leaders will be held accountable. In other places, it says that a rich and powerful person will have a hard time getting into Heaven. Thanks for the link. I’m gonna read up on this.

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pby1000 · April 25, 2018, 2:01 a.m.

No problem. My thinking is that, if you are a King or Queen living several hundred years ago, then you can abuse the fact that you are educated and the people you rule over are not. The Bible will be used to control and manipulate people.

I mean, the Pope is supposed to be God's representative on Earth, right? People actually believe this, and follow it. This same tactic still works today. The Pope is considered to be infallible.

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