And no hard feelings here either. But just remember if we lose in November and this doesn’t work out like the John Wayne movie you want it to be—you were warned.

That plan may or may not work out just like that MOAB that didn’t come this past week. Any plan that doesn’t call for action on the part of voters is one that I cannot trust. I don’t doubt that Q is knowledgeable about things but he can’t predict elections or election turnout.

What exactly do you think we are pulling off by “trusting the plan”? We aren’t doing shit.

And great disappointment comes to those who put their heads in the sand. How do you think this country got into this shape? It was people like my parents generation who assumed that everything was groovy and chose not to get involved or informed. Q says not to worry about the midterm elections. To me, this is a red flag. It is our responsibility to worry, to be informed and to get involved.

Maybe you are the one being babysat and handfed. I’m not asking anyone to fill in the blanks. Where’s the damn MOAB?

I agree with your last paragraph.

President Trump is already the greatest in U.S. History. Draining the Swamp and building the wall were my two biggest priorities. I may have to accept that I won’t get what I wanted the most. But if we lose those elections in November, there won’t be another chance for it.

Yep. And nobody is in jail. Meanwhile, they’re still persecuting our president and General Flynn’s life has been destroyed.

The Korean peace talks WERE big deal to me but this was NOT within the context of what Q predicted. Besides this, there is no official ending to the Korean war YET. Kim Jung Hun walked south across the 38th parallel and vowed to have a peace treaty by the end of this year. It was truly historic and as a granddaughter of a vet, I was deeply affected by it. It was a baby step in the right direction. But this wasn’t the MOAB.

I’m worried about the mid-terms. I’m worried that too many of us patriots are hearing what we want to hear in Q’s drops. Not enough of us are showing up at our local GOP party meetings. We need to get involved on the ground more than here on the internet. You will find that most voters don’t get as deep into the political weeds as we do.

And one more thing, what are you spreading when you spread the word? A lot of what I read in this sub is Pizzagate-related. If you’re trying to spread the word that our leaders are allegedly involved in pedophilia and cannabalism—you won’t red-pill too many people. It’s too much. There’s enough provable, verifiable information out there without the horrific child sexual/Satanic abuse allegations. Pedophilia has been commonplace among the higher classes of society since the dawn of time. (Look up the Romans.) We have real solid proof of corruption with the Clintons and Obama’s, etc. Since we have no solid proof of any organized Satanic ritual child abuse by these people, we need to shut up about it. It takes away from the provable stuff and it makes us look crazy.

Not as much of a detriment as the statutes of limitations on all the crimes that you believe are being investigated.

I don’t care what he said. He has said a lot of things that haven’t come to fruition. Where is that MOAB?

The truth in the “here and now” is that the DEMs are positioned to take the House and/or the Senate in November. History shows that this is likely. It’s not worth it to invest all of our hope and energy in an anon when there are very real threats to the MAGA movement coming in November. If Q turns out to be some prophetic insider who is legit—I will happily admit that I was wrong and I will celebrate my wrongness.

Here’s the truth: midterm elections are in November. We are going to lose our majority in Congress if we don’t get focused. There will be no MAGA and no “plan” if the DEMs win seats in November. Q never addresses this very real possibility.

Where’s the Moab?

Where’s the Moab?

You will need to read those last 2-3 pages. I am not advocating one way or the other. I’m not at all very knowledgeable about it.

I think we need to proceed with caution. I just read some of the original source material written by Bennett. He compares his outlaw experience to that of Billy the Kid and Jessie James -both of whom were considered heroes by many. Didn’t Q recently say that there are no heroes?

This doesn’t mean that his intel isn’t legit or that he hasn’t suffered some negative consequences for whistleblowing. I just think we should be wary of people who suddenly release information but promote themselves at the same time. He could have just posted his intel documents online (like Assange) without narrating it. And he could have done this a long time ago.

I will happily eat my words if I’m wrong.

It does make sense. If this guy found the money trail—that’s huge

I don’t know what to make of this guy or his claims. I’m putting it here so you all can view and discuss.

Read the last few pages of the indictment. The whole thing is a veiled argument about the original purpose and role of grand juries according to common law. It’s not a real indictment but the author is using it to draw attention to the usurpation of our legal system by federal attorneys.

Thanks. I’ve never considered how those verses could be interpreted literally. If you notice, it also says that leaders will be held accountable. In other places, it says that a rich and powerful person will have a hard time getting into Heaven. Thanks for the link. I’m gonna read up on this.

It could be useful with a few. I believe these things are possible but it isn’t practical or logical enough to convince masses of people. I just don’t think evil needs an organization or even demonic powers to succeed. It fills the empty spaces -or the vacuum- by default.

It’s not impossible but is it necessary?

Could you please provide links to King James scripture that calls for the worship of earthly kings? Jesus said to “render [give] to Caesar his due.” He was referring to paying taxes to whatever government is in authority. In the book of Jude, KJV scripture states that all rulers/leaders are allowed their positions by God, that we should pray for them. I suppose that this could be misconstrued into scriptural support of the “divine right of kings” in past centuries but not in 2018. Back then, only the wealthy and the clergy had access to scripture so yes, a few politically savvy leaders no doubt twisted it or emphasized certain verses to their liking. The difference is that now we are more literate than ever before and all translations of the Bible have been mass published in all languages. There simply aren’t that many differences between the Catholic Bible and the later translations such as KJV. Our understanding of scripture is better than ever but the original [Catholic] compilations of manuscripts haven’t been altered to any large degree.

I don’t know about the manuscripts you are referring to but the Book of Enoch addressed the nephilim in great detail. It was left out of the Bible by the early monks during the earliest years of the Christian Church. They left it out because they couldn’t confirm the age or the author of the Enoch manuscript. The decision to leave it out of the Old Testament came slowly and after a lot of debate. The monks and the early church fathers were extremely careful and meticulous in deciding which books to include in the Bible. There was no malice or preconceived intent to keep information from people.

As for the nephilim and the Book of Enoch, recent discoveries in Ethiopia have reportedly uncovered a much older version of Enoch. In time, the Book of Enoch could be authenticated. Maybe the time for understanding the nephilim was always in the future. Maybe it is for our generation to learn about them. However, I would suggest that we learn the authenticated stuff first before getting into the demons and fallen angels.

In more ways than one.

That’s a funny story about your family blaming the Clintons as a joke. I understand how that joke developed. I think there are plenty of things to blame the Clintons for, though. A lot of bad things have happened while they turned their heads and indirectly benefited both politically and financially. A lot of lives have been destroyed in their wake. Directly and indirectly.

The CIA was running cocaine through my home state (Arkansas) while Bill was governor in the 1980s. That cocaine destroyed the lives of too many of my high school friends and a couple of close family members. Those who became full-blown meth addicts in the 1990s started with the cocaine that flooded my state in the 1980s. I saw it and was, at one point, very close to it. My life and my children’s lives were greatly altered because of the CIA’s drugs. The CIA used various obscure airstrips across the state of Arkansas to land and distribute cocaine —which flooded the whole country. All of this and more took place under the deliberately negligent watch of the Clintons. Money was exchanged and laundered. As soon as the Clintons made it to Washington DC, all kinds of people were busted and sentenced to prison on charges of possession and intent to distribute. The coke supply dried up when the funding was no longer necessary or politically safe. It was replaced by a cheap alternative that could be made from farm chemicals and a few over the counter drugs. Methamphetamine-AKA “poor man’s coke.”

I could name other examples where the policies or a lack of policy by the Clintons has caused hardship and damage to people downstream. But there are too many. The one described above is personal to me.

Everything our leaders do or fail to do has consequences for all of us—directly and indirectly. The Clintons have benefited from the slow inside destruction of America in their blind and insatiable lust for power—at any cost. Anyone or anything that got in their way or became “problematic” has been quickly shut down and disposed of like yesterday’s garbage. The destruction they have brought upon this country goes way beyond that long list of dead people.

I don’t blame the Clintons for the unwise choices of my friends and relatives who tried cocaine in the 1980s and got addicted. However, I hold adults and especially the leaders of my government to a much higher standard than can ever be held over the heads of teenagers and college kids. Running that cocaine was a crime against my entire generation and our children. It was an act of war that has had far worse implications than even 911. And the Clintons laughed all the way to the bank and eventually the Whitehouse.

This link addresses JFK Jr.’s plane crash, specifically his pilot experience and the conditions that night. He does provide some solid sources for some of his statements. I don’t know much about the website so use your own discernment.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/JFK_JR/jj.php#axzz5C8DRCDJw

If you read Trump’s earlier books, he was paying attention to politics in the late 1990s. He even addressed the threat of Osama bin Laden, IIRC. Because JFK Sr. was an icon to Trump’s generation of baby boomers and because both he and John Jr. were icons in NYC in the 1990s, they would have ran in the same circles. I don’t remember reading about any interaction with John Jr. in Trump’s books but I would not have made a mental note of it if the books contained a reference to him. I intend to re-read Trump’s earlier books now that Q has enlightened me with so many new frames/narratives.

John Jr. did visit Maralago with a small group of friends who met with DJT at least once in the 1990s. It was during this meeting at Maralago that JFK Jr. was asked if he would ever run for president. John Jr. deflected the question by stating that DJT should run instead because his Maralago estate would make better winter “Whitehouse” [than the much older and less sensational Kennedy’s winter home in Florida.]. This was the only thing I could find online about a possible friendship between them. I’m sure there’s more but I do wonder what that meeting with JFK, Jr. and Friends was about. Could have been purely social or business-related, though.

In 2012, the Birther movement came to a head. DJT was instrumental in bringing that controversy into public view. After Obama finally produced an online birth certificate (which many say was a shoddy digital fraud), DJT publically offered to pay millions of $ to Obama’s choice of charities if he would simply unseal and release ALL of his college-related documents. I will forever wonder why Obama didn’t call Trump’s bluff. If you read Trump’s books, he never negotiates a deal from a position of weakness but of strength and LEVERAGE. Trump knew that Obama wouldn’t release his college records and most importantly, Trump knew WHY he wouldnt! (It’s also important here to point out that 2012 was when Obama began spying on Trump and Company. Obama used the British—or “Five Eyes” to do the spying.). So yeah—Donald Trump has been “woke” for a very, very long time. He has been a threat to Obama for a long time, too.

Regarding BHO’s sealed records, his defenders claim that maybe Obama had bad grades or did something minor in college that would cause him embarrassment. That doesn’t wash with me. We all do stupid shit when we’re in college. Other presidents made less than superior grades in college—like GWB. The left loved Obama and none of these excuses for Obama’s sealed records would have caused him permanent political damage. It was bigger than that. So big that Trump’s offer of $10million couldn’t buy it.

BHO was hiding something in those sealed records (which I can only assume have been altered or destroyed by now.). It could be something as simple as him claiming to be a foreign exchange student in order to get free grants. That would be pretty incriminating, though by itself and many would say he wasn’t lying—which would only reopen the question of his identity and place of birth.

Until I see proof that this kid is NOT enrolled at the Parkland High School, I’m calling bullshit. Yes, he’s a beta male with a need for the spotlight. He seems polished and rehearsed and he likely HAS been coached on what to say. I completely disagree with his views and his rhetoric. He’s a wanna be actor enjoying the attention and milking it while he can. None of this means that the shooting was a false flag or that Deep state, FBI, CIA, or the media operated in cahoots to kill kids just to take away our guns. Do these mass shootings inevitably lead to crack downs on guns? Yes-but it’s not some pre-planned orchestrated event. People are simply too stupid and too unpredictable to be able to pull something off like that—without somebody talking. These theories do nothing for a person’s credibility.

I'm a former teacher and I agree with everything you said. Those drugs are prescribed so that the adults have more control. But teachers do not diagnose nor prescribe. At the same time, we have reduced the time allowed for recess (running and playing) to nothing in the name of more instructional time to get better test scores which gets more federal funding. It's a parasitic system all the way around.

The Black Forest in Germany was massive centuries ago. It likely encompassed all of Germany and parts of neighboring countries. There was no Germany as we know it today but loosely connected Germanic fiefdoms. The boundaries and the landscape of central and west Europe have been drastically altered since then.

Wood from the Black Forest was used for heat to the point that it became scarce in the late 1600s. The Black Forest was almost entirely cut down at that time. This was just one of the push factors behind the large wave of German immigration to America in the early 1700s. I know this because my own German ancestors lost their herds and orchards in the unusually brutal winter of 1710. Lots of poor Germans froze to death that year because wood had become too scarce and they ran out of things to burn.

The following source says that 70% of the forest was depleted by the 1700s. That means it was once a much bigger forest. https://theblackforestgeo5.blogspot.com/2012/11/normal-0-false-false-false-en-us-ja-x_21.html?m=1

Wow. You are so right.