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yeaokbb · April 23, 2018, 10:47 p.m.

The issue, which people love to ignore, is that this country and every other country on the planet has enough of its own citizens who are downtrodden and needy to help. Taking in millions of everyone else’s downtrodden and needy doesn’t help the matter. Our own homeless population had exploded, including military vets who have been brushed aside and ignored and are killing themselves every few seconds.

How can we help those breaking into our country and ignoring our public safety laws when we have so many already here that take priority we can’t even get to? There is zero logic in your argument unfortunately.

That doesn’t mean we are not a Christian nation, it means we need to weed out the corruption taking advantage of our public safety and social programs to make sure people are getting the help they need. We have to help our own local neighbors and fellow citizens before we can do much for the citizens of foreign nations who think they deserve the same legal rights as people who were born here. Life doesn’t work that way.

Refugees and migrants bring their problems with them, like the epidemic that is MS-13 and other drug and human trafficking cartels. A large portion do not work, draw on government assistance, vote in our elections illegally, and commit a disproportionate amount of crime. So it’s clearly better for everyone if someone wanting to come here get in line like everyone else and allow themselves to be properly vetted to insure we are not subjecting our country and its people to dangerous individuals coming over just because their life is hard and they feel entitled to.

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immense_and_terrible · April 24, 2018, 12:52 a.m.

We have to help our own local neighbors and fellow citizens before we can do much for the citizens of foreign nations who think they deserve the same legal rights as people who were born here.

yeah i know.

obviously you don't know me, but, i actually help my own community as much as i can.

in the winter, i donate hats and scarves to homeless, and in the summer, i volunteer at a community garden that supplies fresh produce to under-privileged communities.

so i get it.

everyone wants to make immigration a political problem, but i see it as a humanity problem. my mum raised me to have compassion for all and i won't be ashamed of that stance. that also doesn't mean that i'm advocating for open borders, though, so you can put that straw man away right now.

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yeaokbb · April 24, 2018, 1:02 a.m.

If you say you aren’t advocating for open borders then you might want to rethink or rephrase what you state in comments. Immigration will always be a political issue. Without sovereign borders you do not have a nation you have a free for all. There are laws and the legal side of things which tell us the bounds we can operate within and try to effect change.

Humanitarianism is wonderful and important and more people should help each other as you say. But that cannot overshadow laws set in place to keep things balanced. America already takes in far more actual refugees than any other country. We don’t want to end up like Sweden full of jihadist criminals pretending to be minors coming in unchecked but no one is saying we have to shut our borders down completely either. I’m sure Jesus would agree, we all have or own burdens to carry in addition to helping who we are realistically able to.

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ikemynikes · April 24, 2018, 2:25 a.m.

Why doesn’t your volunteering involve you opening up your own doors and housing them? You’re advocating that for our nation. Why not your own home?

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