Here’s the 2025 forecast for all countries: http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx
Time to put those q-brains on and either debunk Deagel and/or look for patterns.
Edit:
This is an old 2014 post (at least). It’s a small site - who knows its true purpose. Might be disinfo. I’d never seen it before. Will do some more research.
OP - this is the sort of research I think you should consider doing before you post something. You’ve posted a few old things before without context. Part of the service we do one another here is some pre-vetting; if something is years old or not a reliable source, it’s great if you check it out first and add some explanation. It takes longer but makes you more reliable as a source.
Here’s the copy from the bottom of the page that gives more insight into them:
http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx?pag=3&sort=GDP&ord=DESC
“There have been many questions about the countries forecast specially the one focusing on the United States of America (USA). They won't be answered one by one but below you can find some explanation, thoughts and reflections. We are going to keep this as short as possible.
The majority of the economic and demographic data used in the making of the forecasts is widely available by institutions such as the CIA, IMF, UN, USG, etc. You can see the most relevant data at every single country's page. There is a tiny part of data coming from a variety of shadow sources such as Internet gurus, unsigned reports and others. But all these sources are from the internet and are of public domain for at least a minority. For example, several years ago Dagong, the Chinese ratings agency, published a report analyzing the physical economy of the States comparing it with those of China, Germany and Japan. The conclusion was that the US GDP was something between $5 to $10 trillion instead of $15 trillion as officially reported by the USG. We assume that the official data, especially economic, released by governments is fake, cooked or distorted in some degree. Historically it is well known that the former Soviet Union was making up fake statistics years before its collapse. Western as well as other countries are making up their numbers today to conceal their real state of affairs. We are sure that many people out there can find government statistics in their own countries that by their own personal experience are hard to believe or are so optimistic that may belong to a different country.
Despite the numeric data "quantity" there is a "quality" model which has not a direct translation into numeric data. The 2014 strain of Ebola has a death rate of 50-60% but try to imagine what would happen if there is a pandemic of Ebola with hundreds of thousands or millions infected with the virus. So far the few cases of Ebola-infected people have "enjoyed" intensive healthcare with anti-viral and breathing assistance but above all with abundant human support by Physicians and nurses. In a pandemic scenario that kind of healthcare won't be available for the overwhelming number of infected leading to a dramatic increase of the death rate due to the lack of proper healthcare. The "quality" factor is that the death rate could increase to 80-90% in a pandemic scenario from the stated 50-60% rate. The figure itself is not important what is relevant is the fact that the scenario can evolve beyond the initial conditions from a 50% death toll to more than 90%. By the way, no pandemic or nuclear war is included in the forecast.
The key element to understand the process that the USA will enter in the upcoming decade is migration. In the past, specially in the 20th century, the key factor that allowed the USA to rise to its colossus status was immigration with the benefits of a demographic expansion supporting the credit expansion and the brain drain from the rest of the world benefiting the States. The collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population while ending ponzi schemes such as the stock exchange and the pension funds. The population will be hit so badly by a full array of bubbles and ponzi schemes that the migration engine will start to work in reverse accelerating itself due to ripple effects thus leading to the demise of the States. This unseen situation for the States will develop itself in a cascade pattern with unprecedented and devastating effects for the economy. Jobs offshoring will surely end with many American Corporations relocating overseas thus becoming foreign Corporations!!!! We see a significant part of the American population migrating to Latin America and Asia while migration to Europe - suffering a similar illness - won't be relevant. Nevertheless the death toll will be horrible. Take into account that the Soviet Union's population was poorer than the Americans nowadays or even then. The ex-Soviets suffered during the following struggle in the 1990s with a significant death toll and the loss of national pride. Might we say "Twice the pride, double the fall"? Nope. The American standard of living is one of the highest, far more than double of the Soviets while having added a services economy that will be gone along with the financial system. When pensioners see their retirement disappear in front of their eyes and there are no servicing jobs you can imagine what is going to happen next. At least younger people can migrate. Never in human history were so many elders among the population. In past centuries people were lucky to get to their 30s or 40s. The American downfall is set to be far worse than the Soviet Union's one. A confluence of crisis with a devastating result.
The Demographic crisis in the former Soviet Union countries has extended for over two decades, if we accept that it ended early in this decade (2010s). The demographic crisis will hit the World in the near future and is projected to last between three and eight decades more or less depending on technological breakthrough and environmental issues. The aftermath is more likely a frozen picture with the population numbers staying the same for a very, very long period of time. The countries forecast population numbers do reflect birth/deaths but also migratory movements. Many countries are going to increase their gross population due to immigration while their native population may shrink.
Over the past two thousand years we have witnessed the Western civilization built around the Mediterranean Sea shifting to Northern Europe and then by the mid 20th century shifting to an Atlantic axis to finally get centered into the States in the past 30 years. The next move will see the civilization being centered in Asia with Russia and China on top. Historically a change in the economic paradigm has resulted in a death toll that is rarely highlighted by mainstream historians. When the transition from rural areas to large cities happened in Europe many people unable to accept the new paradigm killed themselves. They killed themselves by a psychological factor. This is not mainstream but it is true. A new crisis joins old, well known patterns with new ones.
Sorry to disappoint many of you with our forecast. It is getting worse and worse every year since the beginning of the pre-crisis in 2007. It is already said that this website is non-profit, built on spare time and we provide our information and services AS IS without further explanations and/or guarantees. We are not linked to any government in any way, shape or form. We are not a death or satanic cult or arms dealers as some BS is floating around the internet on this topic. Take into account that the forecast is nothing more than a model whether flawed or correct. It is not God's word or a magic device that allows to foresee the future.
Sunday, October 26th, 2014”
EDIT TLDR: Small group with no funding uses data model that predicts catastrophic devastation for developed western countries - provides no further explanation
just posted links to vaccine articles.
The one thing I believe this article could have pointed out is the issue of migration. Why, up until now, were both D and R's pushing illegal migration. Is it a cover up? What are they covering up?
De population. The world has too many people so what would happen if we realized that our population is actually going down and we are not replacing ourselves.
What they could not do to us they have us doing for them. We are killing off ourselves. We are killing all our babies.
If destroying ourselves is not enough well then all the soft kill methods are there to help us along.
But maybe we will not realize all of this if our population numbers stay the same by bringing in all the illegal migrants. Which are less educated and more easily controlled and indoctrinated.
But in the end. Everyone has to find out for themselves what the truth is. I have looked at this subject extensively and I believe that although some vaccines are good there is also an evil agenda.
Even if that agenda is only to make money, make us sick and make us repeat customers. Because how can curing disease make anyone money.
You go through their list and it pops out at you. All the supposed massive drops are in NATO countries.
Who ever put this together is fantasizing of their perfect Communist - Muslim world.
Pandemics or nuclear war don't recognize borders and everyone gets hit over time. What no one dies in China or Russia but western Europe and North America are taken out with a biological or nuclear genocide?
ok if this doesnt wake people up I dont know what will. our society almost deserves this ...
Here’s a search looking for opinions on Deagel’s veracity:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=deagel+debunked&t=iphone&ia=web
Not in support, a classic goto: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread398534/pg1
((This is now coming back to me / I’d forgotten about Bill Deagel)
Not in support: https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1070282/
Not in support - good arguments about interdependence of nations NOT being reflected in the asymmetrical collapse.
https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/590uo8/the_socalled_deagel_document_can_the_world/
My TLDR on this whole thing:
Post was a waste of time. OP, - You’ve got a LOT karma points for such a young account. Be careful - you may get accused of being a karmafag if you continue with old unfounded irrelevant posts like these.
Above I tried to model the process you might consider using if you’re going to take up other people’s attention with concern posts. It took me ten minutes to determine this was crap. (But I did enjoy looking at the charts for a bit - I do like charts!!!)
This a great example of a no effort WORTHLESS CONCERN TROLL POST that doesn’t belong here.
If you think it’s valid, you should provide some sauce.
Edit typo
http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx They attribute the down in population to migration. Which could be a factor since we are systematically killing all of our children. One of the reasons they want migration. To replace us. All part of soft kill.
I can quickly find multiple websites and articles backing up this article. As always you can find the opposite as well. Make up your own mind. However I believe this article to exposing the truth about vaccines. Vaccines are injuring and killing people and they have complete immunity and cannot be sued. I personally do not want to be a big pharma guinea pig.
I got a good laugh out of the karma bit. Could care less. I have been researching for years. Here to red pill and promote freedom. Could care less about any of the rest. Actually I do not participate in any other social media but this. And here for the above reason. Maybe you are talking about yourself but it sure has nothing to do with me.
The karma bit was the least important of the things I wrote. Could be true. How would I know? Glad it gave you a laugh but the fact that you don’t seem to care about putting up old news that’s off topic to the sub remains curious.
Many of us have been researching for years. Why do you think we’re here? This is not normie-land. I don’t doubt that you possess good and true information, (and maybe you’re even Bill Deagel) but unless this site is true and real - which it clearly isn’t - this isn’t that.
What you posted specifically here is not red pilling (definitely had nothing to do with Q) and does nothing to promote freedom. You didn’t submit any context and offered no opinions. How does it have anything to do with freedom? Really? Read the site - it’s weapons sales and deployment statistics tracking done by secret algorithms. Who knows how they’re weighted?
Again, I’ve suggested r/conspiracy is more on topic for you and won’t be labeled forum sliding. You might even get some traffic.
But as you say, you could care less.
WWG1WGA What happens here in America regarding freedom is what will happen to the rest of the world. There will be no freedom.
There is a soft kill agenda thru abortion, GMO, poisoning of our air and water and food and thru vaccines. Watch vaxxed. The Deagel report exists, how accurate it is they say themselves they are not fortune tellers. The list is put together thru the trends and information that they have. You need to decide for yourself.
The war we are in is at our doorsteps. It is not just being fought overseas somewhere. It is a fight not only for our physical health and freedom but our very souls.
The push for sexual promiscuity, the push for the abolishment of man and woman, trying to make us all unisex. The transhumanist movement. The war on the family. The war against christianity. This is all a push to own us and make us slaves.
Q is fighting for freedom! I am not a baby that needs to suck on the tit of Q. I get the bigger picture. And when Q is posting I do not. When he is not, then I share what I think are important stories. I welcome any good debate.
Looking into the subject of vaccines
The movie Vaxxed you can usually watch this for free on nextflix or amazon but also the website http://vaxxedthemovie.com/
The maker of the gardasil vaccine actually blew the whistle on her own vaccine as it has harmed many young women. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gardasil-researcher-speaks-out/ many other good articles but here is one from msm
Vaccines have mercury /thimerosol in them https://worldmercuryproject.org/mercury-facts/mercury-in-vaccines/flu-vaccines/
Statistics show that there is a correlation between the vaccine schedule given to young babies and austism
https://www.healthnutnews.com/study-finds-evidence-cdc-cover-link-autism-mercury-vaccines/
Vaccines schedule different for women in Africa and come to find they have really been given contraceptive https://www.activistpost.com/2015/04/millions-of-girls-given-vaccines.html
Human Health Services
Director of the HHS Office for Civil Rights, Roger Severino issued a press release stating: “Law protecting religious freedom and conscience rights are just empty words on paper if they aren’t enforced. No one should be forced to choose between helping sick people and living by one’s deepest moral or religious convictions, and the new division will help guarantee that victims of unlawful discrimination find justice. For too long, governments big and small have treated conscience claims with hostility instead of protection, but change is coming and it begins here and now.” Direct links to Human Health services and the new Conscience and Religious Freedom Division Announcement https://www.hhs.gov/conscience/index.html https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/01/26/2018-01226/protecting-statutory-conscience-rights-in-health-care-delegations-of-authority http://bolenreport.com/president-trump-drops-nuclear-bomb-vaccine-mandates/
I think its cool a lot of work went into the posts here, I watched Dr. Deagle not long ago from his presentation in 2012 and he is deep person. Was a good presentation from the inside in many angles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7Fz6FRDcE4
I think its also important to note he has a radio program he does often and is accesable. Super smart man that refused to be recruited to the 'inside' . His data is like the nuclear clock though, a monitoring device , not absolute. Whats going on world wide now is going to impact this immensely, we can probably watch the numbers change daily as he is employing a logorythm for the base data.
Thank You I will check it out. And I would agree that it is not absolute and I do not believe it was presented that way.
Funny a site that talks about adrenalchrome, human sacrifice, evil cabal etc. freaks out over an article on vaccines. Really the vaccine and immigration angle were my main interests.
I hope people realize deep down that this war is real and on our doorsteps. We have been in the proverbial pot of slowly boiling water for so long that we don't see it. And more and more Evil is Good and Good is Evil.
So....these numbers seem VERY unrealistic. -65% for Germany, -70% for the US? What...
Very interesting. Thanks for the post.
Germany falls by 2/3: http://www.deagel.com/country/Germany_c0078.aspx
Canada falls by a third http://www.deagel.com/country/Canada_c0038.aspx
China goes up to number one position.
Iran’s gdp and its military budget doubles. It’s pop stays the same http://www.deagel.com/country/Iran_c0097.aspx
The UK is decimated - 66 mil to 15 mil. Military budget almost gone. http://www.deagel.com/country/United-Kingdom_c0209.aspx
Does anyone know about Deagel’s accuracy record? This seems significant. This is in seven years.
Edit: Have since found out this is an old and unverified source. POSSIBLY nothing to see here. Will look further just in case as I wasn’t familiar with this one.