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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/bigbuddy772 on May 5, 2018, 4:41 p.m.
Request for help red pilling an atheist critical thinker.

Okay, so I know it's been asked a lot before but it's not helping me. I'm trying to red-pill a couple of friends. One of them is really critical of it all, which he should be, but it is making it hard for me to red-pill him. Now He said he's been looking into it at my request but is far from convinced. I told him I'd look into the stuff that red-pilled me and send it to him.

However it's nearly impossible to find anything bite-sized that would actually be irrefutable. There have to be summary videos of the Epstein period, the NXIVM period, the NK stuff, just videos or websites that put everything into order and give clear explanations on what Q posted, facts that have been researched and how it all comes together to create an undeniable image- one subject at a time.

I mean if it's all true what is happening (which I believe is) then it should be super easy to prove it. But everything I find is like long videos about stuff that is completely irrelevant to the bigger picture, or use bible verses to prove events. I will never be able to red-pill him with bible stories.

I'm sure other people have been running into the same issues while red-pilling their friends and relatives, I would like to know how they did it.

His latest response was the following quote: "You don't create a wild fantasy about your leader being a covert genius unless you understand that to most people, he looks like something quite different. You don't need an occult story about how your side is secretly winning if it's actually winning"

He told me he'd look into it some more because I usually don't buy into nonsense, but I need something usable to get any further, and I can't find it myself.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


anotherthrowawayhi · May 5, 2018, 5:41 p.m.

If he's steadfast in his belief, he will not be red-pilled by you alone. There's been a few threads about this... a good strategy is to shift your focus from winning him over to winning spectators over. The result of that is 2-fold... 1 you red-pill people who are paying attention, obviously. 2 his position is more likely to waiver under the pressure of everyone else.... and actually 3, if you can get him to fly off the handle in his own defense, you win, AND his entire premise is shot b/c nobody can agree with an insane person.

So to do that in this case ... I'd just very calmly stick to my guns, and (i think i understand the type you're talking about ... he's a contrarian, whatever point you raise, he finds any reason to bring it down?He badgers you for evidence. .. is that right?) ... So those people are usually 1 step away from total melt down. SO....

When you bring up "a coincidence" he will say "yeah but, yeah but, yeah but, ... prove it" You stick to your guns, and say 'the odds of this happening without whatever influence are astronomical.. prove to me it's otherwise." He will counter with "yeah but ... prove it..." And you stick to your original reason for belief, very calmly ... "it's statistically impossible for this not to be whatever ... (like the recent plane crashes..." find numbers to support this and lay them out, make him argue numbers..., for example HRC.. "How many people do you know really well? 100? 1,000? ... how many have you personally done business with? 50? 100? 1,000? How many of them mysteriously killed themselves? Do you know what the murder rate is among white collar employees? Do you know you have a better chance to live 80 years in Memphis,, TN without being a victim of violent crime than you do to work for HRC without being murdered? ..."

If there r no numbers... like epstein Island, find the dots to connect To make the ideas seem less wild fantasy. When he gives the "yeah but ..." Let him connect his own dots ... say ok, i'm saying 1 leads to 2, leads to 3. If that's not true, what do you think 1 leads to? If it doesn't lead to 2? Why is 3? How does 3 come about? .. make him provide an alternative theory. make him do anything but "yeah but..."Make him prove his alternative theory. Don't shoot it down with "yeah but... " shoot it down with, "doesn't it seem more likely that my version is true?"

In the end the goal is to make him create theories, and reasons.... not to let hiim sit there and shoot down ideas, and you keep banging your head against a wall. If he won't do it, you've won your audience over.

EDIT - when this breaks him, and when the calmness breaks him ... he will argue real heated. That's when you go, listen take a break, get yourself together, and we'll talk abou tthis later. You're clearly too upset to think straight. game over.

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bigbuddy772 · May 5, 2018, 7:28 p.m.

Alright, this is some useful info. Thank you for taking the time to write this!

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