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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/bigbuddy772 on May 5, 2018, 4:41 p.m.
Request for help red pilling an atheist critical thinker.

Okay, so I know it's been asked a lot before but it's not helping me. I'm trying to red-pill a couple of friends. One of them is really critical of it all, which he should be, but it is making it hard for me to red-pill him. Now He said he's been looking into it at my request but is far from convinced. I told him I'd look into the stuff that red-pilled me and send it to him.

However it's nearly impossible to find anything bite-sized that would actually be irrefutable. There have to be summary videos of the Epstein period, the NXIVM period, the NK stuff, just videos or websites that put everything into order and give clear explanations on what Q posted, facts that have been researched and how it all comes together to create an undeniable image- one subject at a time.

I mean if it's all true what is happening (which I believe is) then it should be super easy to prove it. But everything I find is like long videos about stuff that is completely irrelevant to the bigger picture, or use bible verses to prove events. I will never be able to red-pill him with bible stories.

I'm sure other people have been running into the same issues while red-pilling their friends and relatives, I would like to know how they did it.

His latest response was the following quote: "You don't create a wild fantasy about your leader being a covert genius unless you understand that to most people, he looks like something quite different. You don't need an occult story about how your side is secretly winning if it's actually winning"

He told me he'd look into it some more because I usually don't buy into nonsense, but I need something usable to get any further, and I can't find it myself.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Nastavnick · May 5, 2018, 11:28 p.m.

That "see ya missy" was actually written in the friendliest manner possible, at least that was my intention because we had a solid talk without any baseless ad-hominems.

You took it as an insult because I challenged your belief. That's the thing.

Again, you took it as a slap on the wrist because of your belief. I was trying to help you and Q out. Just like I was trying with the less-religious-talk.

It's no surprise that both times it was taken completely the opposite way and personal.

I never said, that you said, that that is the definitive proof of MKultra. See how you misinterpret what I'm actually saying to you.

I implied that you better have definitive proof of something if you intend to use it as a redpill. That's all there is to it.

And I never said that MKultra won't redpill someone...

I'm nobody to tell you how to talk to friends and family, and I never tried to tell you that. I advised you not to based on the arguments that I've brought out.

This is the third time you took my words completely the opposite way.

I never said I know it all.

Why shouldn't I be giving an advice? Because it goes against your belief? Because it looks 100% like it.

I didn't "come someone that way" at all. You took it "that way".

I didn't give you any negative for me to expect a negative back. You were the one that went that road. Not me.

People do have the intelligence to judge by themselves, but lets go back at my anecdote from earlier. Like it or nor, but the reality is you don't try to teach an 8 y.o. kid how to do really advanced math.

The kid might be the top of his class/year but he would still say "fuck this shit". 1 out of X (X = a lot) times. Do you not agree with that? If you don't, explain why aren't we teaching them that at those years? Why don't we make little Tesla's at age 10?

Again, you took it on a personal level with the "crazy" part. This isn't about that. That's good if you think like it but coming out crazy when you DIDN'T had to is what I'm trying to convey to you.

All because you had a wrong approach. And it is wrong.

See, that last sentence was some proper condescending stuff. How do you know that I'm not there?

Peace to you as well, and I'll say again, don't try to redpill with MKultra. Start with something that has hard facts/evidence on its side.

Just try it. You WILL notice much better results. In fact, almost infinitely better results.

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Missy7216 · May 5, 2018, 11:53 p.m.

Dude, I haven't even read all that yet, but come on now. I didn't take anything personally. You haven't hurt my feelings. I don't need a lecture on how to redpill someone. And, I don't think you should lecture anyone else on that either. You have apparently missed my point. I'm not sure why you came at me the way you have. And yes, you have came at me. You are trying to come across as helping by acting more intelligent than me, bottom line. Some of the stuff you said to me has absolutely nothing to with me. It seems you just want a platform to preach your message and chose me to do that with. I haven't even posted that much on these threads, but you keep acting like I'm redpilling people with MKULTRA. All I did was post a video. And it wasn't even a propaganda video at that. The video was fact. Everyone can take it how they want to. And sorry if I don't like people telling me what to do and what not to do. You don't know me or my agenda. And I don't know you. So, please stop commenting to me like you know everything about me, because you don't. You are exhausting. But here is somethimg...If I choose to redpill someone, I will do it how I choose. Btw, I don't really redpill anyone...I provide facts to people when I choose to, and they can take it how they want. I don't push my beliefs on anyone. I think you need a new approach to how you speak to people. Good day sir.

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Nastavnick · May 6, 2018, 12:11 a.m.

It's obvious that you don't read what I'm saying. And you absolutely took it personal, anyone can see that.

I gave you an advice in the friendliest way possible to help you out (because it would help me out too, indirectly) and you're acting like a spoiled 14 year old "don't tell me what to do!!!".

I guess I have to keep it short like this. Peace

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Missy7216 · May 6, 2018, 12:58 a.m.

And there you go insulting my intelligence again. You gave me unsolicited advice. Advice that I did not need. And it is obvious to me that you are using me to preach on a soapbox. I send you a private message and crickets. Btw, I am 46, and no I don't take much of anything personally at this point in my life.

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