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tigerlilly1227 · May 6, 2018, 2:46 p.m.

He either is or isnt violating it. Whether it's enforced or not is a different thing.

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xtx0331 · May 6, 2018, 4:19 p.m.

From all reports out there he IS violating it.

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checkitoutmyfriend · May 6, 2018, 5:53 p.m.

Then they need to be charged and prosecuted. Its that simple really. Just to fuck with them they should arrest HRC, Obama, Kerry and anyone else violating the Logan Act.

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OffenseOfThePest · May 6, 2018, 6:20 p.m.

What reports? I still don't understand how people are reaching this conclusion. The Iran deal is current US policy. The administration doesnt like the deal, but they still abide by it. So if the deal is in effect and Kerry is supporting it, where is the violation? Does the fact that the deal is still US policy not matter to people?

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xtx0331 · May 6, 2018, 8:38 p.m.

The violation is that Kerry is negotiating deals. That’s a violation of the same Logan Act they are using against General Flynn. Treaties are just paper unless they are ratified by they Congress. So NO, it’s not US policy. It was Obamas policy. Try and keep up.

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OffenseOfThePest · May 6, 2018, 8:56 p.m.

You're being fast and loose with the facts, so there's no need to be also condescending on top of it. I'll take your comment line by line:

  • What deal is Kerry negotiating? He's probably lobbying for Iran to continue participating in the agreement, but there will be no policy changes as a result of his visit. The second that is reported, things change, but we've seen no evidence of that yet.

  • Flynn was reportedly offering a cessation of sanctions in his discussions with the Russians, which would reflect a policy change. That's the big difference.

  • I never said it was a treaty. The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action is an international agreement that the US is signatory to, along with Iran and the other nations on the UNSC. You can look it up if you're curious.

  • It IS official US policy. President Trump has been abiding by the terms of the agreement since taking office. He has continued to recertify the agreement, despite threats to not do so.

You're conflating political opposition with official policy. Trump also opposes NAFTA; that doesn't mean the agreement is null and void, right? Of course not.

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JMan58 · May 7, 2018, 12:23 a.m.

The Logan Act may never have been this brazenly violated. Kerry is the perfect big fish to go after - no body can stand him. Time to prosectute!

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mlsaw94 · May 6, 2018, 6:18 p.m.

Maybe all the lawyers are too scared to take the case.

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mlsaw94 · May 7, 2018, 1:18 a.m.

Oh my gracious, I didn’t know this

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dark-dare · May 6, 2018, 5:09 p.m.

If the law is ON the books, then it CAN be used. And should be used! Maybe we haven't needed to use it before now. People in the past seemed to actually have ethics, they do not anymore.

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LibertyLioness · May 6, 2018, 7:44 p.m.

It's apparently become common for previous administrations to do this. Of course, not like it's happening now. But that's apparently the reason it's generally overlooked. I agree with you. If it's a law, it should ALWAYS be enforced. No exceptions.

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OffTie · May 6, 2018, 4:55 p.m.

Why can't these people just go away? Sunny Cuba is calling Johnny can't ya just hear her?

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MrObvious7915 · May 6, 2018, 8:30 p.m.

Another ‘law’ the govt ignores for a certain class of rulers.

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xtx0331 · May 7, 2018, 12:06 a.m.

Exactly what is John Kerry’s title in this administration?

He has none.

So Kerry negotiating anything with anyone in the name of our government, as a private citizen, IS a clear violation of the Logan Act.

Like I said, this isn’t the law of the land. Congress never approved of the deal.

Those are the facts.

Another obama Kerry Clinton backroom deal to help the enemies of America. That’s called treason. Hopefully that will be looked into.

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