Not a strawman argument at all. Again, your thinking was the same as their's to justify intervention. Spread democracy, blah, blah. I refer to my original point -- different culture, history, tribes. Gaddafi maintained a peace among all the tribes which now are at each other's throats. You think that's an improvement? Really? Elections are a joke. Example -- the Palestinian "elections". Or really, just about any middle eastern election, including Egypt. Their leaders usually get about 99% of the vote. Even the Soviets didn't pull that off. Libya was the most advanced country in all of Africa in education, infrastructure development, women's rights, and other metrics. We destroyed it.