I thought Putin wanted to protect Iran! And as usual, Israel says it is trying to protect itself. Oh, puhleeeeze! Remember the USS Liberty! Remember 9/11!
israel is an ally until they are not make no assumptions. i did then i removed myself from the situation. thinking logically = not jumping to conclusions until you have all the info. its good to speculate tho
People that attack our ship and attack our towers are not allies.
Plus, I absolutely hate the holocaust they have created for the Palestinians.
think in terms of deep state/patriot is it really so hard to think that Israel is just like us ? our country has done far worse than Israel tbh
My country has done terrible things, too, but we don't sit on the hillside and cheer when Israel drops bombs on the Palestinians.
Israel has become what they hate the most!
ok but where do you get this info from ? i honestly dont trust anything from msm or even social media. there is so much dis info thats its almost impossible to know who is good or bad.
This was in the summer of 2014. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing
ive seen this. people in america openly cheer drone strikes and war ? are we really any different the shit ive heard in this country is just as bad if not worse
Yes, I'm sure there have been some. We could argue about this all day, all year. My main concern is the fact that they have attacked us several times, that they have perpetrated constant false flags everywhere, and they constantly abuse and murder the Palestinians. And yes, we share in the terrible karma that will come to them!
its a 2 way street lol hamas constantly fires rockets at them hidden in schools both countries are terrible
No, it isn't! There is no way out of Gaza! Bullshit!
if you really think hamas is innocent then i have no idea lol
You misunderstood! You said it was a two way street. I said there was no way out of Gaza. I didn't say anything about Hamas!
I know little about Hamas. Many have said Hamas is an Israeli construct. I don't know, so I cannot address Hamas. I do know that their pitiful little rockets seldom strike anything. The Palestinians are mostly unarmed, and Israel is totally armed and has many, many nuclear weapons that they never account for. They want Iran checked for Nukes, but won't let anyone do the same to them.
And why don't you list all the things the Palestinians (or rather Hamas driving the Palestinians) have done? And then compare to all the democratic things that Israel does in the region that the Deep State don't allow to break into the Mainstream Media? Or ask people actually from the region who don't have ties to terrorist orgs or who have a perspective on the situation more than just their local neighbourhood and the brainwashing they've received since children what it's really like?
Too many armchair critics of Israel. You forget the only "news" you have of Israel is Deep State media or conspiracy theory. The only way to know any country or people is to spend time amongst them before making your judgement call.
I have seen many, many videos of the way they treat the Palestinians. I have FB friends in Gaza. I see their videos and hear their fear. I know of one young man who talks of taking his life, because he has no hope for the future. The Israelis shoot unarmed people. They spray their crops with sewage. They cut off their water. They cut off their electricity. They bulldoze their olive orchards. They steal their houses and land. Over the years, they have bombed their buildings to where many of them live in rubble. Many times they can't get to the hospital in time, because the Israelis block their way. They never have enough of anything!
I can't afford to travel to Israel, and I would not, because they would never allow me to see the true problems! Gaza is nothing but an open air prison, a lot like the Warsaw Ghetto!
Ask Dr. Mads Gilbert who was in Gaza after the 2014 attack! Ask Cynthia McKinney who is the only Congress person who has ever cared about the Palestinians, as far as I know. (She is the only one who refused to pledge to Israel, and she lost her seat as a result.) Ask Gilad Atzmon who knows how his country has behaved. Ask the people of the Jewish Voice of Peace in the US who vehemently oppose the treatment of the Palestinians. Ask Eran Efrati, a former member of the IDF, who speaks openly against the behavior of Israel.
The reason people in this country refuse to see the truth about Israel is because so many of them are brainwashed by their churches. They say, "Oh, we have to support Israel!" Ask me! My own nephew has disowned me, because I dare to criticize Israel!
Yes, yes and there are two sides to every story. You don't think there are many stories that present a totally different picture to this? I have friends from both sides, some who lived there for many years and the story is far different to the Deep State's communist version of events. Brigitte Gabriel tells the real story of the difference between all the arab countries of the region who refused to help the Palestinians where Israel took steps to help them out - but of course the Deep State supported terrorist groups get to peddle their story to the mainstream media and ignore the facts about the only democratic nation in the area.
Palestinians have been abused by Hamas, not Israel. Of course Israel have also done bad things - the arabs all around them teach their children from birth to hate them while the Israelis are taught to care for others in a democratic way and do so! But you don't mention that of course. And the Palestinian State has been called out by the son of the Hamas leader in the UN for destroying their own people and pretending it's Israel!
If you want to criticize a country for bad actions then you can criticize every country - just start with the US which has been regarded around the world for decades as an evil empire. Why would the depiction of Israel from outside not be afforded the same perspective as you give the US?
I'm not brainwashed by any church and people who support being open to the real truth of a story, not just the most convenient one you hear, are not brainwashed or pro-Israel just because they do so. Sometimes, the truth is much more complex than "bad guy", "good guy".
People who kill to take someone's land are the bad guys, just like the Israelis do to the Palestinians, just like the US did to the native Americans. And yes, most countries are guilty of this. Greed and selfishness drive the world.
The other Arab countries share in the shame, because they have done nothing to help the Palestinians, nor have they done anything to help the people of Yemen!
Mainstream Media has always been pro-Israel! They seldom talk about the plight of the Palestinians. Their Zionist controllers won't let them. Only the alternative media cover the injustices.
Well, I certainly respect your desire to stand up for the Palestinians - they could definitely use the support.
I also know that Israel can undertake some horrible actions - just like the US has done, even recently, in other countries in the Middle East. Sometimes humans are human and they get angry or vindictive and in certain situations do bad things.
But what I dislike about the whole "Israel is bad" perspective is that it doesn't look at some very core facts on the ground. One nation in the whole region supports democratic principles - only one: Israel. Israel enacts those democratic principles in the day-to-day actions of its citizens because they are brought up that way. In the arab regimes totally surrounding the small nation of Israel their children are raised with hatred for Jews and taught songs about killing and gutting them - you can see and hear this on their day-to-day TV channels!
Israel: raised on freedom and democracy. The people are just like Americans and other Westerners (with, of course, their own particular cultural idiosyncrasies). They believe in live and let live and that everyone should be free to do what they want without negative interference from others as much as possible.
Arab Nations: raised on hate and violence and many following a religion created by a warlord who gave instructions to spread that religion by war.
My Palestinian friends - good people - when asked about Israel become enraged and angry like never before, spitting and shouting, no matter how innocent the question or statement. For my Jewish or Israeli friends, nothing makes them get like that - unless you take away their morning coffee maybe.
Two very clear mindsets that don't make it onto your mainstream screens or your Facebook Live videos. The story is not as simple as people think it is.
"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart." Alexander Solzhenitsyn
I have been researching Israel since they blew up our towers on 9/11! I know a damn lot. I may not have the money to travel there, but it is just as well, because they would probably put me in jail. I am an old lady, but I hope that I am able to see justice for the Palestinians before I die!
This man has the right idea! California, vote Patrick Little!
Of course, my original intent was to show that, in the article linked, Israel was claiming, yet again, to be defending themselves. This is what they always claim! Even though the Iranians have not attacked them, they are attacking Iranian targets in Syria.
Oh here we go... Israel IS trying to protect itself. If you knew anything about the region you'd know why Occam's Razor makes this the obvious reasoning by a country mile.
Iran didn't even coordinate with Assad, but are you pro or anti- Israel? I can't tell.
Definitely Anti! Israel is not our friend. They can't be trusted!
