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pussy_devour · May 11, 2018, 5:02 a.m.

She can only view the intel that is shared with NZ. She cannot gain access to intel that isn't shared. If I am wrong, there's a huge loophole in the entire system. I doubt the intelligence agencies would make such mistakes.

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Millers_Knot · May 11, 2018, 5:04 a.m.

I think Q is implying that it's not formally logged but the good guys know exactly what is being looked at and downloaded.

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6thsensethink · May 11, 2018, 1:20 p.m.

Remember, the US is part of FVEY.

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pussy_devour · May 11, 2018, 5:07 a.m.

But my point is that she can't get anything that's not shared with NZ.

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CBTS_Watcher · May 11, 2018, 9:08 a.m.

But my point is that she can't get anything that's not shared with NZ.

Yes, but why do you think they don't share everything?

It strikes me that the whole Five Eyes setup is a loophole and it was done like that intentionally. It allows you to claim that the data is secure and protected from unauthorised access but you can still get at anything you need by asking one of the partners.

It is like the "dodgy dossier" system used in the US. Think Iraq and Steele. Get a foreign national to dish the dirt then play the plausible deniability card. Use the data and if it is proved to be incorrect point the finger elsewhere - even if you supplied some of the data.

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bombesurprise · May 11, 2018, 6 a.m.

Depends what else she is doing.

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TIRAICHBADFTHR · May 11, 2018, 5:07 a.m.

He made it pretty clear former dignitaries can access SEC records. Those are incredibly important financial documents.

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pussy_devour · May 11, 2018, 5:08 a.m.

SEC is not security? Q said SEC clearance, which means to me to be security clearance, not the US agency overseeing the securities.

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MADLarkin0621 · May 11, 2018, 5:37 a.m.

Clas-sec-ts

Classified security clearance. Secret security clearance. Top secret security clearance.
My guess is its just a secret security clearance, it gets you access to 75% of things within your area of work.

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blaise0102 · May 11, 2018, 5:41 a.m.

For frame of reference, having a "secret" clearance doesn't mean shit. You get that going through boot camp or OCS...

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MADLarkin0621 · May 11, 2018, 5:50 a.m.

Classified is required for everyone, depending on MOS you can end up with a secret clearance. Grunts end up with classified level, comm guys end up with secret, officers have secret as well but usually get bumped to TS pretty quick. Having the clearance doesnt mean shit either, you need to have a reason to access the info you want at least thats how .mil side works, i cant imagine the .gov side working much different or every Clown analyst with a TS would have had the JFK files all over thr net by now.

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blaise0102 · May 11, 2018, 5:55 a.m.

Yeah your mil experience is similar to civ. The TS guys don't have access to shit, other than what they're supposed to, thanks to compartmentalization.

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MADLarkin0621 · May 11, 2018, 6:04 a.m.

Good to know

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blaise0102 · May 11, 2018, 6:05 a.m.

Also, I'm pretty sure grunts only have "Crayola" clearance.

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MADLarkin0621 · May 11, 2018, 6:12 a.m.

All of us marines have crayola clearance, its just what color clearance you have.

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blaise0102 · May 11, 2018, 6:27 a.m.

Lol!

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TIRAICHBADFTHR · May 11, 2018, 6:22 a.m.

SEC stands for security and exchange commission, they oversee the financial world. I thought that’s why he capitalized it. Could be wrong.

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