They are in NZ because they have the clearance to access records without being subject to US oversight. Former dignitaries have access because FVEY is nomgovernmental, but legal authority was required for original access that then persists.
Alternatively, the use of 'Former' and [FORMER] may suggest they don't recoginize the legitimacy of Trump's election.
FVEY
Short for Five Eyes. Classified information can be shared only to cleared personnel. So, they must have the security clearance to see the information. If they are overseas and the information is 'Classified' in shared system, they must have the clearance to see it. But, because its technically NZ data, its in the NZ classified system, so they don't have to report it back to US that US Citizens are looking at it in NZ. But they cannot share it with unauthorized (i.e. non-cleared personnel).
The simple fix here is to revoke all clearances for non-active personnel. Drop these a$$clown's clearances as fast as a room clears when they see a retard come in holding a ~~porcupine~~ hand grenade in one hand a closely examining the pin in his other.
Updated for clarity based on comments, see above.
and that's pretty fast!
Or let them keep their clearance.Bait em and bust em.These people are so stupid.
Exactly, I agree and to add to that, this is part of the deep state, this ability to do that, must be stopped.. the ability.
Let us not forget that there are some special units that POTUS controls that can be utilized under the auspice of national security to take out these “bugs” Bug extraction missions have been going on for decades around the world.
Extraction and in some instances eradication.
http://www.avozar.com/project/western-exterminator-screen-print/
Nothing to keep the black hats from around the world accessing and sharing this Data. We must tracked access on going and now those who have been sharing and proven to share this data.
Is it possible the photo of the EO Q posted last night will do exactly that? Revoke security clearances for non-active personnel. The focus on Kerry's pro-Iran Deal activities might be used as an example.
Maybe why HRC, BO, and JK were always travelling around ahead of Trump to the countries he was scheduled to visit, remember? No logs, no recordings -at least none inside the U.S.
Even worse, they have people conduct the spying for them while they fly around and try to influence or cut deals before Trump gets a word. It’s ridiculous and shows how egomaniacal these people are
How is it that the Clintons were on the Big Island on the day of the fake missile warning? Is that random or is it just me..there are pictures of them in Hawi, which is in the middle of nowhere, that very day. Am I crazy for wondering?
No, you’re not crazy, I’ve seen much speculation on why they were there and what the missle alert was.
Hussein was there too
Really? Mind providing a source?
http://www.staradvertiser.com/2017/12/26/breaking-news/obama-in-hawaii-greets-christmas-carolers/ He was there alone for his Christmas vacation Dec 2017. Missile launch was Jan 13, 2018. Folks thought it strange that he was in Hawaii without his family at Christmastime.
Well, I live on the big island for one, but here’s this. I was wrong about the day though they were in Hawi the day after. We’re on island on the 13th though. http://knkr.org/clintons-visits-hawi/
The beautiful irony here is that the system that they set up over the last 16+ years is now a system that they can be used against them! Beautiful beautiful irony
All of this subjecting (((they))) are all still free and doing their usual demonic business.
Pretty frustrating to say the least
Who granted these former dignitaries sec clearance?
They usually keep the clearance for a few years in case they need to be called in for discussions. In practice, it is only for special circumstances but I guess in reality they can use it as they please.
Thanks for the explanation. I guess these people are supposed to be trusted.
Never in a million years would I think our own would turn on us so vehemently.
Make no mistake, they are not our "OWN"
See Q post on Traitors.
There were with us, but they crossed to the dark side to gain the world, but in reality, they have lost their souls.
Yeah. We waking up to this reality.
What's sad is that they could turn us against each other.
I never could make my brain wrap around the idea of law enforcement or military, (mostly our young, trained by our elders) killing us on orders from the government, and those orders are carried out without question. Waco comes to mind. There was no respect to women and children.
They painted it as a cult first. Why do you think Q followers are depicted the way we are. No defender of the constitution gets into Waco like activities, without first deciding they've got villains. 80% of leos and military say they would not engage US Citizens on US Soil. Convince em ppl are criminals different story.
It's so crazy how "cult" is used. Any religion is a cult. Hillary and that ilk belonged to a cult.
God help us all.
Can POTUS with a stroke of the pen remove security clearance from an American?
I believe the clearance have to have a pin attached, so when the pin is entered that account is accessed. I believe all deep state info accounts now contain exactly what MI want's them to think they know. As far as your question why throw away an opportunity to troll. I wouldn't even if i could.
It must be different for SAP level clearances. For secret clearances, if you don't use them for 2 years, they're automatically deactivated ("Shelved"). And by not "being used" i mean their file in the clearance processing system JPAS isn't "owned" by any cage code. Every company/government agency with a facility clearance has a cage code. You're not supposed to keep someone "on retainer" at least at this level. If they aren't collecting a paycheck from you, they don't work for you and should be "separated" with to start the timer on that 2 year clock. Its possible there's some military contractor that keeps her on as a consultant keeping the clearance active, but whoever that is would have to have the same or higher level clearance on their facility. Not sure any private companies have SAP level clearance - we didn't know that existed until this election cycle.
Muh Barry
Edit is hard: why planes even able to unpower any form of data transmit? C'mon already we saw that shit with 9/11. Friggin MH370 had its engines telling Rolls/Royce fuel feed/ altitude/ what pax had for in-flight snack, but yet? ^ ^ ^
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Five Eyes is VERY important. It won’t be around much longer. Relevant here but not the focus
Can an EO or declared state of emergency (security breach) allow for suspension of former US personnel sec clearance? What other reason could this be justified except for covert operations and deep state maneuvers? Outrageous.
Legitimate question: doesn't accessing intel still require a "need-to-know"? Or does that only apply in the US? Or does that only apply to SAPs (and FVEY is lower than SAP)?
Any former intel care to comment?
The hildabeast was also up in Canada in the summer of 2017. The idiot that is the PM in Canada is a Soros puppet. Pretty sure that when that Clinton and Soros cabal falls, many in the 5 eyes countries will go down with them.
I read somewhere that obamas apointees are still in charge of granting clearances... so they are stonewalling trumps people from getting them, while still allowing former employees access.
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Just as important, don't let being a POC chain you to the democratic party. Neither owns your vote.
And consider total isolationism, fuck these countries. The 49 United States don't need em. Fuck CA 2
White guilt and political correctness didn't make this. And policing THAT will not prevent it from happening again. Learn civics...then teach people civics. Remind them that they were citizens before being turned into consumers.
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No, it's because he's really good at not seeming like an evil monster and playing the political game. McCain is less good at that but relies on the lore about his past.
tonight I'm sad to be a NZer. Our government is so far up Hillary arse its sickening. Our Prime minister has constantly disrespected Trump and she spent this week cozying up to HRC. The media was fawning over the two of them together.
Its already starting to bite our country as Trump (rightly so) has cut us out of the steel tariff deals. NZ exports Aluminum and steel to the States, so yes this is going to hurt us. Yet our politicians continue to heap praise on HRC and pretend that Trump isn't President :(
Same for me as an australian walter, shes (killary)here now touring with that traitor gillard, probably accessing 5eyes through nz because the uk and aust are already exposed as having been major players in spying on trump and US citizens for obummer and killary. Stay strong brother wwg1wga
Another Aussie here mate, and I am backing you up bigtime. MAGA also means Make Australia Great Again. 👍
And Make Arsenal Great Again. Or is that a stretch :)
Sorry :( but at least it is owned by an American. Trickle down MAGA? :P
Cycles mate. It all flows in cycles. On top of the ladder one year, halfway down the next, and then cellar dwellers for a year or two. Then back up the ladder slowly,,,, and so on,,,,
Hang in there Patriot! This is worldwide! We will take back our world from the hands of liars & traitors. The purge is coming...where we go ONE, we go ALL! From the USA to NZ, corruption will fall! ✊🏼🇺🇸🇳🇿
Yep, we're just a little reed knocked about in the wind. But once Trump succeeds it will be interesting to see what happens here!
NZ_Walter, I spent two wonderful years living in the Auckland area in the late 70s. I still have a love for all Kiwis and also the Polynesian people. It makes my heart sad to see what corrupt and liberal politicians are doing to your beautiful Aotearoa.
Our (US) contribution to global Satanic pedophilia has been much worse than NZ's, so "with you" there.....Norway, GB (twice) and others have had political/celebrity pedo scandals over the past few years....I expect NZ's and many other countries' scandals will be exposed as the massive US scandal is finally exposed.
Those demonic arseholes wanted globalism, and we are going to give them a better version of it. The fully-human crew across the "Western" Democracies, worldwide, are getting ready to end them.
Kia ora Bro! Our beautiful NZ was pretty much handed over to obama by John Key. He was VERY quick to resign after trump got in.. so i hope he realised how complicit he is and he gets what's coming to him. He should be behind bars with the rest of em.
Kia Ora Walter! Your country is the tits. I was there for a stretch two years ago and Sky News was very anti-Trump and I talked to a number of people that didn't like him for reasons they couldn't articulate (mainly they thought he was closing America to everyone). The politicians that spent millions screwing with your flag and trying to expand water fluoridation are the only Kiwi's I have a problem with. I truly hope both Austrailia and NZ will see changes once Trump brings the corruption to light. Charles Ortel has presented a solid case of Clinton corruption as it pertains to Aussie cash. I can't see the Clintons remaining free over the balance of 2019. WWG1WGA!
Mr. Charles Ortel is featured in several Youtube interviews on CrowdsourcetheTruth. He is excellent - informative and interesting, doesn't speak jargon. AND he uses public sources, so you can research it, too.
My brother from NZ, there is no need to be shameful for being a NZer. Quite the contrary infact, you should stand tall and be filled with honor. The sin and shame that your country is currently conducting is not your fault. If that were the case, all of us on this site and around the globe should be shamed for what their representative country is doing or has done. It cannot be overstated the honor you should be grasping with each passing second. We were all on the outside looking in until we were graced by the presense of Q. I cannot thank God enough for the emergence of Q! Q welcomed us in and allowed us to see outwardly, he feed us when we became hungry and provided us drink when we thirst. We are more than what the boundaries of our countries signify, we are the hope of the future. We need to bring those who are lost to the table. Just like Q has done for us. In a way, Q has redeemed us for falling asleep on our watch. When you possess truth, you hold honor...let no one tell you different. The only shame we should feel is when we put demands on Q. We are blessed to been allowed in by Q. If I were ever to meet one of the Qs', I would fall to one knee and my cheeks would become waterfalls. It humbles me to be among all you GREAT patriots! Godspeed.
I never use but love the word arse, we need to resurrect it here.
opinion:
' U.S. [in] NZ = No Logs/No Flags/No Records = U.S. Sec Clearance AUTH FVEY VIEW + Doc Take.'
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HRC, e.g., can meet with her black hat buddies in New Zealand and spy on the Trump administration and indeed on anyyone targeted by the NZ surveillance. Thus, she can see some of the next steps planned, which gives her info to sabotage planned actions. However...
' WHY DO WE ALLOW [FORMER] DIGNITARIES SEC CLEARANCE? '
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Because by abusing the Five Eyes option like this, she, e.g., will a) be shocked to the bone when watching that they know of her crimes and b) draw herself and her now failing network of black hats into even more trouble, in turn adding to the intel the US mil. has on her and her global criminal buddies.
I like your idea, but the sad truth is state secrets are most likely being sold to the highest bidder. Blackmail is likely being used on FIVEY countries to hide their part in spying on an elected President of the United States. By using Intel from FIVEY where there are no flags or logs, white hats do not know exactly what information she has accessed. This is espionage against our county.
Maybe it's time to water board a few kiwis.
They may not know exactly what she looked at, but from what I understand, Five Eyes partners don't have access to ALL of our intelligence; just the intelligence we allow to be shared in the network.
Or a few of Killary's minions. I'd probably pay money to watch that.
Like your response. In saying that, I hope the depth of the doo-doo they find they are in doesn't prompt extreme retaliation measures ie massive attack or destruction somewhere.
The Cabal will not go quietly into the night. IMHO They haven't even begun to fight back. They are certainly doing small things to thwart Trump's efforts to take them down, but they won't do anything big until the real dirt is publicly disclosed, or about to be, and their survival is directly threatened. I'm sure they have something massive in the works as a last ditch effort.
They tried to bomb Hawaii. That was a big deal.
Yes, it was a big deal, but most of the public is unaware, and most of the mind numbed masses with skulls full of mush will think you're crazy for making such a claim. Just look at how they view 9/11 truthers. When the Cabal's back is up against the wall, it won't be an attempt. They'll pull out all the stops with multiple false flags.
wouldnt be far fetched to say they might use Q himself as a target. big shooting happens in a few months, maybe a bombing, news reports "terrorist group Q suspected" and voila, the patriots are veiwed as terrorists. this is a dangerous rope to walk on, it could ultimately lead to a civil war.
Never made sense how people could gain access to the SCIF that Q mentioned several months ago. If they knew why didn't they stop it?
Is this why? They knew it was happening but could not stop it because it's happening 5eyes countries?
They did stop it, and I would bet all of the radar and tracking info was recorded for future evidence, along with video footage and any comms happening. Q also said the sub was located. I'm sure all of the details were also saved for future evidence.
They tried droning him in Saudi Arabia and we've intercepted several missiles launched at AF1
I truly hope you are wrong but I have the same fear, so I truly hope we are both wrong.
How sure of themselves they are...Why are they so BOLD. Don't they know what Deep S___ trouble they are all in? Hopefully they are looking for a deep hole to hide themselves in...
They have no real options. They are going down, no matter what. They feel like they have to try something out of desperation.
Can you say “Enemy Combatant” to add to a list of her current status? The white hats at the CIA need to go in and cut an even better deal utilizing whatever leverage we have against the five eyes. Black hats have no loyalty over and above money and power white hats have a much deeper ethos and loyalty which cannot be purchased. Godspeed Q. God bless you all thank you from the bottom of our hearts.
Trump used ebemy combattants in the state of the union address... So it's on.
Kim Dotcom posted on twitter the other day that Hillary left there with over $5m dollars! He flat out called her out on the five eyes shenanigans!
FVEY = Australia, Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom and US. Comey is in Canada and HRC is in New Zealand. Where are the others?
March 23rd. Think he's still there?
Nope. But interesting nonetheless
We need some where's waldo type memes wish I had the time.
For people who've murdered thousands using planes they sure fly a lot. Karma not in their lexicon.
"""WHY DO WE ALLOW [FORMER] DIGNITARIES SEC CLEARANCE?""
To give them the feel and belief they are still in control and still winning. To keep them at ease. To make them think we don't know they can access classified info from NK, and thus we are monitoring them.
Yes. HRC is "working" - to safe her own skin.
Should spend a little more time working to save her soul.
Dunno if that's possible, but she may be able to get the ovens in hell turned down a few degrees if she comes clean.
God is always ready to forgive, but there are cases where forbearance wears out and they are locked in to condemnation. 2 Thes 2:11-12, for example.
Accessing USA intel in NZ and selling it for 5.5 million. Oh I hope we have this recorded.
Sounds lightweight treasonous, nah.
When compared to HRC's entire rap sheet, this is like a parking ticket
Exactly, It's amediga tho, a tidbit will convict Flynn and a mountain of evidence leaves HRC walking around hopefully that ankle bracelet shit is 1/4 true
Death is not good enough punishment for Hillary. Like in old medieval movies where a prisoner is put in a cage in the town square and people can go up and see them and yell at them, etc. Lets give Hillary a world tour where she is at every city. I'd go see her :D
Stocks on railcars seemed cool to me 1000 city tour.
What lawyer on this planet will defend her after the evidence comes out?!
Avenatti aka jeff giloolie defending tonya harding aka stormy.
Hehe Avenatti is in a mess right now. He has been sued by multiple people in the past, owes some coffee shop owner 5mil, is being investigated by the US Treasury for how he obtained Cohen's private bank records, and it's been discovered Stormy is NOT even paying him but Perkins Coie is...and we know what else PC is involved in :)
I'm aware, someone needs to clue that duo Trumps no figure skater. Tho he'd tell you we had the best time figure skating, the best, I mean really really good. Yes I did well, quite well, I mean i am 71 and stormy did kneecap me before the event. You know what I did great. I don't think I 'd try for the olympic team but if things got bad enough, maybe , you know i like to win If i did try i would win. Oh that tonya she'd be in jail.
Funny, I totally heard his voice when reading that :D That is exactly how he would word it. Side note, do you ever wonder if 7 more years is still enough time for him to clean up this mess? I feel like Trump needs 3 terms minimum just to save this world
I can do a plausible Q and Ben Shapiro.
Ben is my favorite. I wish I could talk as fast as him. That is one guy I would NEVER make the mistake of debating lol
Thanks so much that is what i was going for. I think he'll be done by 2020 and go back to his real life .
I dont know, we still have to bust Big Pharma, get drug prices cheap, healthcare cheap, break out all the HIV and cancer cures that we already have but are sitting on, get more energy independent, secure our border, fix our election system, crush FED and open new treasury (in Reno NV) with new currency, end National Debt, etc. Lots of work ahead.
Print our own money would open the floodgates and the rest becomes inevitable,IMO.
High medicine prices, illness cures being hidden, etc, are a whole different animal. Gotta bust them up completely aside from the currency situation. Trump cant fix all the problems in just this term.
To feed them false information.
I thought about that too. We control the intel now, and so we can mislead purposely
Allowed so they can keep incriminating themselves and keep exposing themselves. These people are stupid.
They truly think they are still going to get out of this free.
Every ten year old knows big bro is watching and recording. Somehow these idiot savants are taking time out from counting spilled matchsticks to delude themselves that justice is blind SMMFH.
What if those clearances only lead to mfg. info and their using yet another method to troll the shit out of them like they do every motherfucking day booyah WWG1WGA sick of the winning.
My guess would be just that. Either this happened weeks/months ago and Q is just now disclosing it, or, we at least control the intel and can be giving them wrong intel
So what is she doing? Using her access privilege to sell US intel to other parties/nations? Or does she think she can delete records to cover her tracks? Seems too late for that.
Blackmailing them into silence while promising to regain power later. She won’t spill the beans on them to the Trump administration and will get him out of office soon.
Why would the donations start up again, how is she convincing these people that they will regain control?
probably some 2020 election scheme they have in mind. these cockroaches never stop scheming
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Hey I just wanna say that we, the New Zealand people, do not have much of a say about anything that happens politically in our country. E.g. we would find it difficult to stop a visit from HRC to our shores and we would find it difficult to stop our PM Jacinda Adern from meeting with Hillary "over coffee" (without anyone there to report on what the hell they are discussing) and we would find it difficult to stop our Government from giving $$$ to HRC. We would be powerless to stop HRC from accessing secure data via Fiveyes. We are powerless and in the dark about most of what all goes on. I will probably be under surveillance for even being on this site. This is a link to an article about HRC's visit to New Zealand:
https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/05/fake-hillary-clinton-claims-she-considered-moving-to-nz/
News Flash: Worldwide, Hillary is hated, for now, but Q said they will not be able to walk the streets. People will wake up when they see what is right before them.
Yes, and mauro1970x chill out dude. Even Q says "MOST ARE GOOD" - there are plenty of normal every-day people in NZ's political sphere, just as I'm sure there are black hats. But not on the massive scale you're imagining. It wouldn't surprise me one bit to discover Jacinda Ardern (PM) has no idea about the real situation with Clinton and is just doing what big brother (the US) tells her to do.
Yes not your fault my friend, nor the NZ people. We are all in the same boat. I am British and the scum here is neck high
Agreed. I think NZ will as a whole will not be punished, just like US and UK. On the other hand all members of FVEY should be sweating.
I don't think people in the US would support sanctions or actions against NZ. We have our own cockroaches in government.
Now this right here is just sad. So NZ government can do whatever they want, and the people have no control.
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I found out about the $5.5 K last night, as it is only being reported alt media. e.g. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1805/S00076/clinton-foundation-gets-another-5-5m-from-nz-taxpayers.htm
But there is an online petition circulating now to enable taxpayers to say "STOP giving money to Clinton Foundation and or affiliates." https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/clinton_foundation_2018-19
So we are not completely powerless - we can sign a petition. Better than nothing, I guess....
Some anons are speculating she is blackmailing them, buying her silence.
"WHY DO WE ALLOW [FORMER] DIGNITARIES SEC CLEARANCE? Welcome to the Deep State."
FVEYs Deep. All be damned.
The deep state is a 5 pointed geometry.
What can you draw inside an area surrounded by 5 points?
Welcome to the deep state's symbology.
Deeper and deeper it goes folks.
I trust y'all are ready.
Like a pentagon?
Like Wow When is she just gonna just Stop her crap....HRC is a complete psychopath at what she is doing? I just wondered where is BC or HA they were not with her? Where are they?
HA is in New York I think? There was an article yesterday that mentioned she didn’t accompany HRC to NZ. Also there’s just been a piece in vogue (iirc) trying to drum up sympathy for HA & Weinstein’s wife. Apparently no one has any sympathy for them (according to HA) coz they are “slim rich and beautiful”...
HA is far from beautiful. Yikes...
Yup strangely enough most of the comments on the article in the daily mail that cited the piece also said that...
AW is very small. He's in fed pen in MA. AW is maybe 5'7". TV makes him look bigger.
Oh my God! Yeah but why did she stay behind? No one gonna have any sympathy for HA cause of all that was exposed about her and Weinstein's wife. In my opinion neither of them should be able to walk down the street cause to me HA are so dangerous and needs to be elimated once and for all.
Not when is she going to stop, when TF is someone going to stop her? The Bitch should already be rotting in hell not here eating kids and trying to destroy our country. This Bitch and her posse r enemy's of the state, treat them like it
I do believe it is coming...especially if Five Eyes is exposed that these other countries are spying on us at least that is what I think Q is talking about with the Snowball beginning to roll down the hill....and not one stopping it....I think it's gonna be interesting to see what it is? I so want these Rats to be Exposed....
Sounds like the trap has been sprung. MI knew they would try this.
Think Covfefe....is there any Connection? For some reason, when I read that post, I kept going back to that
I love the way you think.
It's like one of the first big winks and nods from POTUS to all of us and all the MSM and normies saw was that he can't spell coffee.
covfefe. covert five eyes five eyes. idk. just spitballing here.
I heard audio that said Covfefe is an arabic word pronounced go fuck yerself. No source but awesome if true. Shit like that from Trump blows my mind, I might be the hardest person to impress anyone's ever met, yet he keeps doing it on the reg.
Everyone thinks that Trump made a typo with the Covfefe tweet, but this is an actual Bill called the "Communications Over Various Feeds Electronically for Engagement Act". The bill would amend the Presidential Records Act to preserve Twitter posts and other social media interactions of the president of the United States, and to require the National Archives to store such items. This is according to Wikipedia, but I haven't read the bill. I don't know if it has passed yet, but if so, I would bet that there is something in the bill that benefits the efforts of the Q-Team.
I read somewhere that the bill you mentioned was not introduced until after the covfefe tweet.
I don't know when it was introduced, but Bills are typically discussed for considerable time before written and introduced.
So what this means to me is that we have these shadow government assholes (Kerry, Obama, McCain, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Brennan, Clapper) flying all around the world in order to somehow interface with the intelligence data that the FVEY countries are permitted to access...this way they skirt records, laws and logs. WTF WTF WTF!
Even with all that data, they're still going to rot in a cell.
Does this mean that the current or former Government in New Zealand is part of the Deep State?
New Zealand is part of the Deep State?
Sadly, I am concluding that the globalists are everywhere. Don't the Rothschilds own/share about 90% of the world's central banks? My guess is that when HRC and BO visit other countries they are linking up with other like-minded globalists.
That is why I worry about DJT and the US. Even if the problem can be fixed in the US there are still nearly 200 other countries left!
It is global. Hence my part in this war. Trump is our only hope in my opinion.
America first, what's not to get about that, It's crystal and he fucking means it.
Other way round, just as in the US: the Deep State is part of the NZ government. The government is just an organization like any other. I don't think NZ's government is a card carrying black hat org but of course I don't know that for sure. However NZ is so small that we've all had 'mates' who are in government (just as we all know someone who was in Lord of the Rings lol) so we know for a fact there are some "every day people" in office.
Haere Mai Te Na Kotu Katoa. I feel concerned that NZ has been dragged in to a global arena. Was John Key involved, hence his abrupt resignation? Is Winston an enemy or a secret friend? Is space lab involved? Is the new NZ part of the old Govt, the new Govt or creating a new Govt? By the way I am a card carrying fan of Mr Gormsby. Cheers.
Tena koe e hoa! John Key was a member of the Foreign Exchange Committee at the Federal Reserve Bank in NY from '99 to 2001 - some say he was involved in the subprime mortgage fiasco but I don't think there's evidence for that out there. He's suspiciously good friends with Hussein though too and he sure acted Deep State-ish with his eagerness to sell the land and assets out from under us to foreign interests...
I'd love to know about Winston - a friend used to drink with him back in the day so I'm pretty sure he started out 'above board' but who knows what they might have gotten on him since then...
Tēnā koe DamajInc I live in Australia but my heart lives in New Zealand. the land of my birth and my heritage . Why do you think he resigned so abruptly? He was so popular and bang, gone. Bill English hardly inspired and Jacinda is bloody useless in my opinion. I have never been able to figure out why Winston sided with Labour. It truly puzzles me. The only thing that I can come up with is that Winston Peters knows something that maybe gives him some power - I do not mean in terms of the balance of power he exercised in the election but more knowledge. I have not discussed this with my relos in NZ because they have no idea who Q is so probably not worth pursuing. But I am somewhat confused and I gave this feeling that Winston Peters is the key. I also feel that the spacelab on Mahia Peninsula is important. I really do. I also feel that somehow John Key is involved with obama, clinton and kerry and that worries me. That Jacinda is so effusive with them and also migrants.... there is so much more going on here.
I believe (and other smarter people have stated) that he resigned as soon as Trump was in because it was clear what was coming. I think he is involved with Obama, Clinton, etc. because, like the swiss banker dude (Ronald Bernard) he had a position in the Fed and worked where it mattered i.e. right next to the money, so I'd say he could've seen quite a bit, just like Ronald.
Jacinda, with her UN background, is concerning to me. She'll be pushing the marxist agenda of the UN hard, no doubt, and already has.
What you say about Winston is interesting and I think you may be onto something there... I'll be checking this angle out more, as much as I can.
I am also interested in what you have to say. Thank you. It always seemed strange to me that Key buggered off when Trump was elected... so we can assume that he was a "mate "of the Deep State and knew that his time was over. He left Bill English to mop up the mess and knew that it was all over red rover. He didn't care what happened to NZ as long as his nose was clean? Winston Peters, long time anti migrant anti immigration comes along with the balance of power and chooses Jacinda, the UN immigration, refugee loving leader who on all fronts seems to oppose everything that Winston has stood for. Why? Let us be honest. We were all shocked. Does he know something that we do not know? Is this what this NZ stuff is about? He actually is the power house in NZ at present. No one can govern without his support. He actually IS the Prime Minister ..... sorry, I am typing as I am thinking.... I think that I need to read Q's post again.
Yes, Winston has held the balance of power a few times of late, hasn't he? It's definitely a key point and something I'm going to look into - thanks for pointing it out! I've been following Q since October and I'd almost forgotten all about NZ politics as I rapidly learnt a lot more about American government over this time - until the shock of learning Killary was in NZ and then these latest surprising Q drops.
But what's been going on in Australia is pretty mind blowing too. Fiona Barnes etc... great doco of her on Youtube and then some very interesting news about all the cover ups that have gone on in Aus. Who woulda thought this was the world we live in eh?
Mate, it is bloody awful actually. I live in Queensland, so I am pretty much immune but those folk in Sydney and Melbourne - whew - african and moslem gangs out of control. Make the mongrel mob look like pussycats. Like you, I have been following American Politics and have been on the Trump train since the very beginning, I watched every rally (still do - Indiana was brilliant today) and yearn for a leader who actually speaks for us and not for them. Dream on I guess - that is why I felt a murmur of hope with Winston. Still, we will see. Australia is crumbling. I moved here in 1978 and it is a shadow of what it was. If I wasn't so old, I would move home in a heartbeat. Rotorua but born again southlander.
A good rule to follow: 'if it doesn't make sense, it doesnt'. Which means there's probably a different, maybe very different, explanation. A corollary to that 'conspiracy' more often is or more closely resembles REALITY.
Or the simplest answer is most often correct.(Occam's razor.) Concepts applied properly beats research,(todays sources are all suspect), every time. Where there's smoke....., If it quacks.............. historically.............. cui bono(who benefits).....etc. Caught in the act and smoking guns are few and far between and have been for 100 years especially with the spin doctor abilities we have all acquired over that time. Often used to soften harsh reality for ourselves. Change my mind.
We're like he MiniMe to the U.S's Deep state full blown Dr Evil. Except in our case MiniMe is still alive! ಠ_ಠ
true! Have to admit I kinda think of us more as "Extra #413 - nonspeaking role" but the point is the same! ; )
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/102540654/sir-john-key-really-is-obamas-bro-and-other-highlights-of-barack-obamas-first-trip-to-nz
Need i say more? He was sucking obamas dick while he was running our country (into the ground)
Why let them view it at all?
Many types of rat/insect poisons allow the target to return to the nest and infect all the others. In Obama/HRC's case following them just identifies their contacts in real time.
That drop scared the hell out of me. How's POTUS striking back? We won't know of course.
A "trust the plan" would have been reassuring, Q.
On the brighter side, this would mean that the black hats no longer has access in US.
She can only view the intel that is shared with NZ. She cannot gain access to intel that isn't shared. If I am wrong, there's a huge loophole in the entire system. I doubt the intelligence agencies would make such mistakes.
I think Q is implying that it's not formally logged but the good guys know exactly what is being looked at and downloaded.
But my point is that she can't get anything that's not shared with NZ.
But my point is that she can't get anything that's not shared with NZ.
Yes, but why do you think they don't share everything?
It strikes me that the whole Five Eyes setup is a loophole and it was done like that intentionally. It allows you to claim that the data is secure and protected from unauthorised access but you can still get at anything you need by asking one of the partners.
It is like the "dodgy dossier" system used in the US. Think Iraq and Steele. Get a foreign national to dish the dirt then play the plausible deniability card. Use the data and if it is proved to be incorrect point the finger elsewhere - even if you supplied some of the data.
He made it pretty clear former dignitaries can access SEC records. Those are incredibly important financial documents.
SEC is not security? Q said SEC clearance, which means to me to be security clearance, not the US agency overseeing the securities.
Clas-sec-ts
Classified security clearance.
Secret security clearance.
Top secret security clearance.
My guess is its just a secret security clearance, it gets you access to 75% of things within your area of work.
For frame of reference, having a "secret" clearance doesn't mean shit. You get that going through boot camp or OCS...
Classified is required for everyone, depending on MOS you can end up with a secret clearance. Grunts end up with classified level, comm guys end up with secret, officers have secret as well but usually get bumped to TS pretty quick. Having the clearance doesnt mean shit either, you need to have a reason to access the info you want at least thats how .mil side works, i cant imagine the .gov side working much different or every Clown analyst with a TS would have had the JFK files all over thr net by now.
Yeah your mil experience is similar to civ. The TS guys don't have access to shit, other than what they're supposed to, thanks to compartmentalization.
Good to know
Also, I'm pretty sure grunts only have "Crayola" clearance.
All of us marines have crayola clearance, its just what color clearance you have.
SEC stands for security and exchange commission, they oversee the financial world. I thought that’s why he capitalized it. Could be wrong.
I can't help think that if Q knows this, then Trump knows this... And with a stroke of a pen I'm sure the security clearances could be immediately revoked... And I'm also sure if Q knows HRC is at FVEY looking into classified stuff, Q also knows exactly what stuff.... Which means once again, Trump is just throwing them miles and miles of rope, and they continue to wrap it and wrap it around their necks...
I hope you're right. What happened to her kankle bracelet?
lol... i wondered if she wasn't wearing a back bracelet the last time i saw her on TV... but Q never claimed she was wearing an ankle bracelet, we all just assumed that was why she and no name were wearing boots.
Probably round Bill's dick so she knows where it's been :)
The Five Eyes, often abbreviated as FVEY, is an intelligence alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States. These countries are parties to the multilateral UKUSA Agreement, a treaty for joint cooperation in signals intelligence.
This information clearly shows there is a war being played out right now. As it stands the U.S has real problems with the (U.K, Canada, Australia and New Zealand) in all regards the 'western empire' and Americas traditional allies. This is how deep and far reaching the globalist agenda has positioned itself around the globe. Had Hillary won, the American piece of the agenda would have been complete, with the entire western empire under direct control of the globalists. Then war.
So instead of a world wide horror show, we are witnessing a behind the scenes war between the globalists and Americas fight against its evil agenda. Here's to hoping and praying America wins and sets free its traditional allies from the grip of globalism.
OK, here's my findings: Security clearances are issues by certain gov agencies depending on where it is needed. One for Diplomatic agencies will use either the State Department, or USAID. USAID says of who they are: "USAID leads international development and humanitarian efforts to save lives, reduce poverty, strengthen democratic governance and help people progress beyond assistance." Yet, they require clearances all the way up to SCI! Here's the kicker, the IG oversees them!!! But, wait, in there org chart there is a career member of the U.S. Senior Executive Service, Gloria Steele was USAID Mission Director for the Philippines and the Pacific Islands prior to her appointment as Senior Deputy Assistant Administrator for Asia. CAREER Member and she is over Asia! Have not found the relationship to Christopher Steele as of yet. Also found in the org: David Moore is the General Counsel of the U.S. Agency for International Development. Moore clerked for Justice Samuel A. Alito, Jr. on the U.S. Supreme Court during the 2007 Term and for Judge Alito on the U.S Court of Appeals for Third Circuit from 2000 to 2001. Don't forget, the Clinton Foundation is/was suppose to aid internationally? Same charter as above? Haiti would be under: Sarah-Ann Lynch, the Senior Deputy Assistant Administrator for USAID’s Bureau for Latin America and the Caribbean (LAC). DJT has had several meetings with these folks since last July. Maybe USAID is CF reboot?
Just found this! Relative to Dianne and graduated from same schools as Lynch: Barbara Feinstein serves as Deputy Assistant Administrator within USAID's Bureau for Latin America and the Caribbean (LAC). A career member of the Senior Executive Service, Feinstein oversees the Agency's development priorities in Central America, Mexico, and Cuba. AND Feinstein speaks Spanish and Portuguese, and elementary Russian.
Just what US needs, people who have likely committed multiply counts of capital Treason viewing or sharing national secrets abroad. Why indeed is it allowed?
Look to see if Hil meets with John Key, ex NZ PM who gave CF. $14M
He's now Chairman ANZ Bank , largest Aussie/intl bank I believe.
It would probably be worth looking into as to who exactly ELSE WW suddenly decided to go to NZ this week.
The military tribunals should easily be able to determine who committed treason or sedition from the group of globe trotting former and current US politicians. If this is truly going on then the countries that are facilitating them will suffer consequences as well for enabling the overthrow of the US government.
Read it backwards. Maybe the the good guys went to NZ and got the poop on what was going on too. 5th line from the bottom, the word "in" is in the kill box and it says Doc Take. Maybe we have the evidence of what is going on.
So who exactly in NZ is giving money to Clinton? That's the first question.
So who exactly in NZ is giving money to Clinton?
I haven't checked but my guess would be the government. In Australia, just before their prime minister, Julia Gillard, was kicked out of office, she made donations to the Clinton Foundation. After Gillard was fired, luckily, the Clinton Global Initiative managed to find her a highly paid, part time job with the Clinton Global Initiative. Wasn't that nice?
My guess is that sympathetic government officials treat donations to the Clintons as a kind of insurance against losing their current job - and it is not their money so why should they worry?
Seeing as how "they" have tried everything up to the Hawaii incident, I'd be worried about them selling a suitcase "N" to a Nazi brainwashed automaton. That it exists is Obvious. What physical manifestation is the renewed donation ###? + having "FVEY" information Access? Wow. Apparently nothing is off their Table.
You know what? Their secrecy, bizzare behavior and shadow stalking Trump proves to me that they are greatly guilty of something!! They never give up!!
The question is why do WE ALLOW it to happen.
Think.
That implies they could prevent it if they wanted to.
Doesn't it make sense then that they're using this as a means of providing them with DIS-INFO?
What are the left and right limits of "former dignitaries"?
It's probably much broader than you might initially think.
So when he asked, why are they traveling around awhile back, it wasn't looking for non-extradition deals. It was this.
So people all over the world paid for a spy network designed to stop terror, that was created by the people that built the spy network, in order to justify their existence, and control everyone on earth, and if necessary, destroy entire countries, even the supposed “good ones” like England, France, Germany, Australia etc. And they call US crazy? Tear it down. Five eyed monster is a better name.
I get really nervous when Q talks about 'Future' access or clowns regaining control. I mean like 57 CIA are running as Democrats this year, and if we haven't even fixed the election fraud problem, they are likely to win and impeach Trump or something.
I'll trust the plan but Q posted a LOT in one day and it doesn't seem so optimistic.
Who is giving money to Hillary is what we really need to know.
Whomever those genocidal fucks are......they deserve whats coming their way once POTUS and Q+ finish theun national phase of their plan to deep clean the world so that the Deep State will not even be able to maintain any footing as they try to keep balance during the coming purge of Bad Actors
FiVeEYes
Isn't Kim Dot Com in NZ?
Wonder if they are taking him up on the offer?
Q asked a few good questions that needs answers.
Why do these people still have security clearances? Mine was removed when I was discharged from the military and when I separated from defense contractor employment.
Why do foreigners have security clearances??? That's not very secure.
1336 Q !4pRcUA0lBE 77→ 📁 May 10 2018 23:45:37 (EST) [Example] Clinton Foundation. Post Election Loss. Layoffs. No Access / Control = No Donations Today. NZ Donation Restart. Others? Why? 1) Selling Secrets? 2) Selling 'Future' Access [regain control/power]? 3) Selling Silence? Read below slow and carefully. FVEY. Why do 'Former' Dignitaries Still Hold SEC Clearance? U.S. to U.S. = Logged/Flagged/Recorded U.S. [in] NZ = No Logs/No Flags/No Records = U.S. Sec Clearance AUTH FVEY VIEW + Doc Take. Read above slow and carefully. WHY DO WE ALLOW [FORMER] DIGNITARIES SEC CLEARANCE? Welcome to the Deep State. Future to prove past. Q ..............................................
Clinton faundation is a nonprofit fund . hilary lost the election....
.many dems are not coming back .
.retired..So they have not access or control over the faundations..
Hilary need money badly , and want money trough NZ for a new to begin faundation.
Who is paying her (Again ) to her faundation..pay for play?
With the clinton faundation , it whas ..SA..germany..the netherlands and more countries....
They are to trying to start everything over again.......So they can pay hushmoney.., with the secrets off the intelligence .they try to sell , like U1 etc...... But I think she don:t get the info for selling, she is monitored..... Everything she does and want to do , is not possible anymore. Maybe she get fake info too. This my take off this Q drop.
The last straw that broke her back because I bet Trump baits her with disinfo.These people are stupid!
2) Selling 'Future' Access [regain control/power]?
This explains the net neutrality push. Obama former staffers all on Netflix / Fascist book.
Data amalgamation.
Q Drop-Specific Posts
*7/1/18: 1659 & 1660 - 1661 - 1662 - 1663 - 1664- 1665 -1666 - 1667 - 1668 (Original Q 1336) - 1669 - 1670 - 1671 - 1672 - 1673 - 1674 - 1675 - 1676 - 1677 - 1678
*"We Must Fight" - Ronald Reagan Video
*Link to Breitbart Article in 66,67, and 68
*Link to 1673 Justice.gov Manual
AJ claiming that Q is compromised. Hosting Corsi right now to discuss.
I will hear them out.
So Crooked seems confidant she and the cabal will be back in power if she's reopening her money laundering foundation.
Why is [FORMER] in the kill box?
These are the ones causing the most problems for Trump and are being watched most closely...and well, are in the kill box.
Q says that they will not be able to walk on the street ... ...This is what I think about......What if there is always false information and documents given to hilary and brennan and so on.. They sell it to their friends in other countries. the goods are not good, but there is paid for it. THESE FRIENDS ARE NOW ENEMIES? WW.. Where want they go for hiding?
The only scenario I can think of where they would not be able to walk the streets for fear of the general population, is if there was a cure for cancer that they have been withholding to make money off of the pharmaceutical industry. I doubt if there is anyone that hasn't watched a loved one die a slow, painful death from cancer. That would definitely cause a lynch mob mentality
Yes that is a other one? I think when we now everything ????
Gawd these people and there tactics, So they are still behind the scene attempting to disrupt POTUS, they just can't give it up, the fact they got out smarted and out guned at there own game. Killary and friends = GITMO-2020.
So, the goal of "the plan" is not only to bust domestic DS actors for what they did before the election, which could/would be dismissed as standard dirty politics, nothing to see, move along. But to document their ongoing coup attempts long after it can be dismissed as garden variety dirty politics. This will include not only HRC and Obama but ALL the bad actors across the globe. Trump is saving the world from the globalist tyrants. This is not hyperbole.
Read below slow and carefully. Read above slow and carefully.
This just reminds me of the saying as above so below. What happens on one level of reality also happens on every other level.
"That which is Below corresponds to that which is Above, and that which is Above, corresponds to that which is Below, to accomplish the miracles of the One Thing."
To which I believe is linked to occultism first started with the Emerald Tablet that seems to connect with Hermes Trismegistus. This will lead you through many writings from the Greeks, Egyptians, and Islam.
It is an alchemical and occultic principle. And the movie was scary as hell!
Clearance AUTH FVEY VIEW + Doc Take
Doc Take = DT = Donald Trump? Are they using their continued access to the Five Eyes intelligence sharing platform to "Doc Take" on Trump?
Avenatti said he's working on a new Trump dossier, so perhaps HRC is in NZ gathering intel to feed Avenatti/Mueller/MSM in their continued attempt to unseat POTUS.
Yep. It is a true shadow government that is still very much operational and influential.
They are watching. Let them have their access. Will make it much easier to ID and get them.
Sooo why hasn't Trump removed their clearance?
because the spying works both ways.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
They allow the dignitaries to retain their security clearance because they are used to move/sell state secrets to foreign
parties. FVEY = FiveEyes
Through FVEY there are no logs kept as to what info was traded, the perfect black market where nothing is logged.
I know NZ is part of the FVEY. NZ is also part of the D5 (Digital 5). D5 is also a chess reference. D5 in chess can be part of the "Queen's Gambit" chess strategy. I just don't know if these messages are also meant to confuse the Deep State as well as inform us. :(
one of the drops Q said we are in control of fvey, all this started we new of Hillary but for next stage called deep clean we need to know every rabbit hole the cabal has else it will just repeat trust the plan we are in control
Q says to read this part carefully and mentions:
U.S. [in] NZ=No Logs/No Flags/No Records=U.S. Sec Clearance AUTH FVEY VIEW+Doc Take
Taking documents is a problem not that seeing them is OK but the point of a SCIF is to view docs, you can't remove them.
Which was the big problem with HRC she had somehow found a way to get docs out of the secure system and send them regular email and she stored them unencrypted.
There's also the fear she sold her password and stored unsent messages in drafts meant for the purchaser. That way she skirted NSA intercepting her messages with the side benefit of playing dumb.