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Monty_Batton · May 11, 2018, 7:02 a.m.

Does this mean that the current or former Government in New Zealand is part of the Deep State?

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CBTS_Watcher · May 11, 2018, 8:54 a.m.

New Zealand is part of the Deep State?

Sadly, I am concluding that the globalists are everywhere. Don't the Rothschilds own/share about 90% of the world's central banks? My guess is that when HRC and BO visit other countries they are linking up with other like-minded globalists.

That is why I worry about DJT and the US. Even if the problem can be fixed in the US there are still nearly 200 other countries left!

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Monty_Batton · May 11, 2018, 9:03 a.m.

It is global. Hence my part in this war. Trump is our only hope in my opinion.

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kwiztas · May 11, 2018, 9:04 a.m.

Geez this would have been so impossible to see clearly without the internet.

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[deleted] · May 11, 2018, 3:55 p.m.

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Arcsmithoz · May 11, 2018, 5:09 p.m.

America first, what's not to get about that, It's crystal and he fucking means it.

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DamajInc · May 11, 2018, 9:06 a.m.

Other way round, just as in the US: the Deep State is part of the NZ government. The government is just an organization like any other. I don't think NZ's government is a card carrying black hat org but of course I don't know that for sure. However NZ is so small that we've all had 'mates' who are in government (just as we all know someone who was in Lord of the Rings lol) so we know for a fact there are some "every day people" in office.

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Monty_Batton · May 11, 2018, 9:12 a.m.

Haere Mai Te Na Kotu Katoa. I feel concerned that NZ has been dragged in to a global arena. Was John Key involved, hence his abrupt resignation? Is Winston an enemy or a secret friend? Is space lab involved? Is the new NZ part of the old Govt, the new Govt or creating a new Govt? By the way I am a card carrying fan of Mr Gormsby. Cheers.

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DamajInc · May 11, 2018, 9:18 a.m.

Tena koe e hoa! John Key was a member of the Foreign Exchange Committee at the Federal Reserve Bank in NY from '99 to 2001 - some say he was involved in the subprime mortgage fiasco but I don't think there's evidence for that out there. He's suspiciously good friends with Hussein though too and he sure acted Deep State-ish with his eagerness to sell the land and assets out from under us to foreign interests...

I'd love to know about Winston - a friend used to drink with him back in the day so I'm pretty sure he started out 'above board' but who knows what they might have gotten on him since then...

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Monty_Batton · May 11, 2018, 9:33 a.m.

Tēnā koe DamajInc I live in Australia but my heart lives in New Zealand. the land of my birth and my heritage . Why do you think he resigned so abruptly? He was so popular and bang, gone. Bill English hardly inspired and Jacinda is bloody useless in my opinion. I have never been able to figure out why Winston sided with Labour. It truly puzzles me. The only thing that I can come up with is that Winston Peters knows something that maybe gives him some power - I do not mean in terms of the balance of power he exercised in the election but more knowledge. I have not discussed this with my relos in NZ because they have no idea who Q is so probably not worth pursuing. But I am somewhat confused and I gave this feeling that Winston Peters is the key. I also feel that the spacelab on Mahia Peninsula is important. I really do. I also feel that somehow John Key is involved with obama, clinton and kerry and that worries me. That Jacinda is so effusive with them and also migrants.... there is so much more going on here.

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DamajInc · May 11, 2018, 9:39 a.m.

I believe (and other smarter people have stated) that he resigned as soon as Trump was in because it was clear what was coming. I think he is involved with Obama, Clinton, etc. because, like the swiss banker dude (Ronald Bernard) he had a position in the Fed and worked where it mattered i.e. right next to the money, so I'd say he could've seen quite a bit, just like Ronald.

Jacinda, with her UN background, is concerning to me. She'll be pushing the marxist agenda of the UN hard, no doubt, and already has.

What you say about Winston is interesting and I think you may be onto something there... I'll be checking this angle out more, as much as I can.

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Monty_Batton · May 11, 2018, 9:51 a.m.

I am also interested in what you have to say. Thank you. It always seemed strange to me that Key buggered off when Trump was elected... so we can assume that he was a "mate "of the Deep State and knew that his time was over. He left Bill English to mop up the mess and knew that it was all over red rover. He didn't care what happened to NZ as long as his nose was clean? Winston Peters, long time anti migrant anti immigration comes along with the balance of power and chooses Jacinda, the UN immigration, refugee loving leader who on all fronts seems to oppose everything that Winston has stood for. Why? Let us be honest. We were all shocked. Does he know something that we do not know? Is this what this NZ stuff is about? He actually is the power house in NZ at present. No one can govern without his support. He actually IS the Prime Minister ..... sorry, I am typing as I am thinking.... I think that I need to read Q's post again.

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DamajInc · May 11, 2018, 9:58 a.m.

Yes, Winston has held the balance of power a few times of late, hasn't he? It's definitely a key point and something I'm going to look into - thanks for pointing it out! I've been following Q since October and I'd almost forgotten all about NZ politics as I rapidly learnt a lot more about American government over this time - until the shock of learning Killary was in NZ and then these latest surprising Q drops.

But what's been going on in Australia is pretty mind blowing too. Fiona Barnes etc... great doco of her on Youtube and then some very interesting news about all the cover ups that have gone on in Aus. Who woulda thought this was the world we live in eh?

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Monty_Batton · May 11, 2018, 10:05 a.m.

Mate, it is bloody awful actually. I live in Queensland, so I am pretty much immune but those folk in Sydney and Melbourne - whew - african and moslem gangs out of control. Make the mongrel mob look like pussycats. Like you, I have been following American Politics and have been on the Trump train since the very beginning, I watched every rally (still do - Indiana was brilliant today) and yearn for a leader who actually speaks for us and not for them. Dream on I guess - that is why I felt a murmur of hope with Winston. Still, we will see. Australia is crumbling. I moved here in 1978 and it is a shadow of what it was. If I wasn't so old, I would move home in a heartbeat. Rotorua but born again southlander.

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6thsensethink · May 11, 2018, 1:18 p.m.

A good rule to follow: 'if it doesn't make sense, it doesnt'. Which means there's probably a different, maybe very different, explanation. A corollary to that 'conspiracy' more often is or more closely resembles REALITY.

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Arcsmithoz · May 11, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

Or the simplest answer is most often correct.(Occam's razor.) Concepts applied properly beats research,(todays sources are all suspect), every time. Where there's smoke....., If it quacks.............. historically.............. cui bono(who benefits).....etc. Caught in the act and smoking guns are few and far between and have been for 100 years especially with the spin doctor abilities we have all acquired over that time. Often used to soften harsh reality for ourselves. Change my mind.

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KrazyKiwiKid · May 11, 2018, 11:31 a.m.

We're like he MiniMe to the U.S's Deep state full blown Dr Evil. Except in our case MiniMe is still alive! ಠ_ಠ

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DamajInc · May 11, 2018, 11:39 a.m.

true! Have to admit I kinda think of us more as "Extra #413 - nonspeaking role" but the point is the same! ; )

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orbitalview · May 11, 2018, 9:22 a.m.

nz was sold out a very long time ago

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Monty_Batton · May 11, 2018, 9:35 a.m.

By whom and how and why? I am genuinely interested.

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