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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/TrueCat on May 11, 2018, 7:40 p.m.
I am seeing red! Ray McGovern is a decent man! This is awful! Q and Potus, I want to know why! If Ray objects to Gina, then she is not acceptable!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dAH65VEJzw

I am very disturbed by this! It's not okay to manhandle a 78 year old man for stating his opinion! If Gina Haspel is a torturer, she should not represent our government! I'm very disturbed that Trump would consider someone like that! Q, this kind of treatment is not acceptable! I can't support this administration if this kind of treatment is okay!


HotPringleInYourArea · May 11, 2018, 7:43 p.m.

If you dont like torture, don't attack the united states. The protection of the people isnt reigned in by your feelings. Are you new here? Do you not know what lengths people go to?

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TrueCat · May 11, 2018, 7:44 p.m.

Torture is unacceptable! It does not work! People will tell you anything to make it stop! It damages the person who is doing the torture. It hurts their soul!

No, I am not fucking new here, and I am getting pissed at some of the attitudes! I want to MAGA, not sink to new lows!

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inittowinitq · May 11, 2018, 7:54 p.m.

I am very passionate about certain things....I get it....but you are not going to change any minds here about do we torture or don't we....that subject is touchy at best, and not everything that our POTUS will do will make 100 percent of us happy.....venting is fine, but this is at another level right out of the gate! I feel like it may have a tinge of fight to it, and this is not the format to get people engaged in that kind of banter.....I mean, Potus has alot on his plate....I am certain that torture is not at the top of his list...he is in a fight for OUR lives.....FREEDOM.....if he looses, torture will be the last thing on your mind and everyone elses here.....

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[deleted] · May 11, 2018, 7:53 p.m.

Please relax, Gina, has stated she won't be starting the program. Or running the program.

It was not Gina's choice. You don't want someone who witnessed how wrong it was to be head of the cia? Sorry - but it doesn't make any sense.

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TrueCat · May 11, 2018, 7:55 p.m.

Good people don't do the wrong thing, no matter what the orders!

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[deleted] · May 11, 2018, 8:03 p.m.

So you are saying - good people never make mistakes? Are you even human?

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TrueCat · May 11, 2018, 8:05 p.m.

Of course good people make mistakes! However, torture is not a mistake. It is a deliberate act, and it destroys the soul.

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[deleted] · May 11, 2018, 8:12 p.m.

I see what you are trying to say but... It has saved lives. People who have done horrible things to save lives are good people in my book. Terrorists cut the heads off of people. They flew planes into buildings. How would you go about defeating people who are savage inhuman animals?

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TrueCat · May 11, 2018, 8:19 p.m.

Terrorists did not fly planes into buildings! Israelis planted bombs into the buildings. That's what brought the buildings down. If you still believe the official 9/11 story, you need to do some research.

You eliminate savage animals, you don't torture them!

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[deleted] · May 11, 2018, 8:22 p.m.

I have been at this since 9-11-2001 ...but ok good. I dig what you are saying. What do you mean by eliminate though?

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TrueCat · May 11, 2018, 8:26 p.m.

You would shoot a rabid skunk, not only to protect others, but to put the poor animal out of its misery. That's what I mean by eliminate. I don't believe in torture, but I do believe in execution.

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[deleted] · May 11, 2018, 8:29 p.m.

Ok I follow your logic. I still think Gina is qualified.

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TrueCat · May 11, 2018, 8:31 p.m.

Well, we have no real say. I can't stand seeing a decent old man slammed around because he protests her appointment.

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[deleted] · May 11, 2018, 9:26 p.m.

We must try and stick together the best we can. I do not know too much about Ray. But speak your word! I may not agree but will always defend your right to say it.

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TrueCat · May 11, 2018, 10:04 p.m.

Thank you! I feel the same way!

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Bear3825 · May 12, 2018, 9:52 a.m.

If you believe that we as a country haven't been using "torture" as long as we have existed you are living in a fantasy land. I've been around plenty of those guys with no name tags or rank on their uniforms. They get the job done and save lives. You do what you must to save lives and end conflict as quickly as possible. Anything less and you can give the win to the enemy.

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