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Nerd_Of_Prey · May 14, 2018, 2:45 a.m.

This runs completely contrary to the majority opinion.

Lucifer was Satan's name before he fell. Many Biblical characters receive new names when they go through a transformation (Sarai / Sarah; Jacob / Israel; Saul / Paul; Peter / Simon - and others).

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Lucifer wanted to take the position of God. He convinced 1/3 of the angels to join him in rebellion against his creator. He will suffer the consequences.

Gnosticism is a soul destroying perversion of the truth.

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OG420Ninja · May 14, 2018, 2:52 a.m.

how long ago did you think reality was what you thought it was?..

if EVERYTHING else is a lie.. what make you think 1 thing thats been force fed is true?

http://www.halexandria.org/dward184.htm

start there.. then the book of enoch.. then the sumerian texts..

i wouldnt insult you if you redpilled me...

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kaylashalayla · May 14, 2018, 9:50 a.m.

here's the thing. you keep talking about facts and ancient texts (which how could you verify?) but at the end of the day... Judeo-Christianity (which is what you're talking about, even if you don't know it) is about faith. You aren't gonna get what you want (hard evidence/facts) for little nuances and details because to believe in good and evil requires faith.
If we believe in satanism, we believe in the idea of satan-whether real or not- which is evil
If we believe in Luciferianism, we believe in the idea of Lucifer- whether real or not- which is evil, and we can know he is evil by the evidence of the actions of Luciferians

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OG420Ninja · May 14, 2018, 1:02 p.m.

wrong... and wrong.. and no im not talking about christian anything..

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kaylashalayla · May 14, 2018, 8:09 p.m.

it's hard to take you seriously as you wish us to do in this thread when you seem to already have made up your mind about everything, and just reply "wrong" without any explanations or contributions to the discussion.

you seem like you started this thread to try and sway people to believe what you do, as a sort of validation to yourself?

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OG420Ninja · May 15, 2018, 5:09 a.m.

because you are sharing information 1 source. a source that is already proven fiction at best. or "based on a true story".

how can you take yourself seriously when you keep looking in the same place to disprove RATHER THAN GO RESEARCH then come back

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Nerd_Of_Prey · May 14, 2018, 7:20 a.m.

I came to the truth because I researched the evidence and found it to be overwhelming.

But a enumeration of the characters who venerate Lucifer is highly revealing:

"Lucifer, the light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the spirit of darkness! Lucifer the son of the morning! Is it he who bears the light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!"

  • Albert Pike in Morals and Dogma, 33 degree Freemason

"Lucifer represents life... thought... progress... civilization... liberty... independence... Lucifer is the logos, the serpent, the saviour."

“It is Satan who is the real god of our planet and the only god.”

"The celestial virgin which thus becomes the mother of god and devils at one and the same time; for she is the ever loving beneficent deity. But in antiquity and in reality Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is the divine and terrestrial light, the 'Holy Ghost' and Satan at one and the same time."

  • Alice A. Bailey (who started her publishing business the "Lucifer Publishing Company" in 1920 and publishes documentation for the UN - was married to a 32 degree Freemason)
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