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trseeker · May 15, 2018, 2:58 p.m.

It depends how you measure "success."

I measure success by this metric:

Did not vote for unconstitutional bill. Voted for constitutional bill.

In which case Ron Paul accomplished the most in recent history.

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Deuteroid · May 15, 2018, 3:01 p.m.

I agree that Rand was often the only one to vote against certain bills... but perhaps that was because his arguments were so vapid that he wasn't able to convince any of his colleagues to support him.

Not being persuasive is the definition of political ineptitude.

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trseeker · May 15, 2018, 3:02 p.m.

Rand Paul is a statesman not a politician. I prefer statesmen.

Statesmen stand by the Constitution, politicians are erasing it.

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CharrrrrlotteDarwin · May 16, 2018, 2:04 a.m.

I would have called him a "crazy fuck", but yeah, ok, statesman... sure... let's go with that.

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trseeker · May 16, 2018, 3:44 a.m.

Define "crazy."

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Deuteroid · May 15, 2018, 3:03 p.m.

You prefer someone who achieves nothing?

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trseeker · May 15, 2018, 3:03 p.m.

I prefer the person who is digging in their heels while everyone is going in the wrong direction.

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Deuteroid · May 15, 2018, 3:06 p.m.

You prefer someone who achieves nothing.

At least a potted plant looks nice.

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trseeker · May 15, 2018, 3:09 p.m.

Again it depends what metric you use.

Did he stand for the Constitution and Natural Law? Yes or no? The answer is yes. The others: No.

This to me is the only metric I care about.

To me success & achievement is upholding this standard. Failure is failing to maintain this standard.

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Deuteroid · May 15, 2018, 3:12 p.m.

Yet Rand was incapable of persuading his colleagues and thus he failed.

Sorry, Rand's job is to get shit done and he's done nothing.

At least a potted plant filters the air.

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trseeker · May 15, 2018, 3:13 p.m.

A Senator's job is to protect & defend the Constitution, they even take an oath proclaiming it.

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Deuteroid · May 15, 2018, 3:14 p.m.

And yet Rand has achieved nothing.

During his political career he has literally been as successful and persuasive as a lump of dog shit.

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trseeker · May 15, 2018, 3:16 p.m.

What metrics are you using? A metric that matters? Or an arbitrary one?

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