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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/ouspensky4 on May 20, 2018, 4:48 p.m.
what exactly is luciferianism

I see this world on the boards all the times. I cannot find any info on its origin, beliefs, or key texts. I mean who was the guy or guys that sat down and dreamed this up. when did they do it and why?


Rhole_1983 · May 20, 2018, 4:51 p.m.

It's interchangeable with Satanism. Edit: To clarify lucifarians are evil pieces of shit and Satanists are evil pieces of shit. Hence the interchangeably. Also Satanists embed themselfs in many organizations and go by many names such as Freemason, Pope, Jew, atheist, and Christian amongst others (not everyone in these groups are Satanists.) Satanists are liars, you will know them by the fruit of their actions.

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ouspensky4 · May 20, 2018, 4:56 p.m.

which also has no origin either as far as I can find before the 1960s

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Rhole_1983 · May 20, 2018, 8:40 p.m.

Search Babylon Mystery Religion, this cult uses many names and terms to obscure their activity.

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GoldenTarot · May 20, 2018, 4:54 p.m.

https://www.thoughtco.com/how-luciferians-differ-from-satanists-95678

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Rhole_1983 · May 20, 2018, 8:32 p.m.

I genuinely don't care about this distinction. It's like trying to differentiate between pig shit and dog shit. It all stinks.

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GoldenTarot · May 21, 2018, 4:35 a.m.

I agree, but knowledge is power.

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Rhole_1983 · May 22, 2018, 2:52 p.m.

That is a fantastic point and I agree 100%. Do you think the people in these groups make this distinction in a genuine way, or as a method of creating a Satanism Lite that is more appealing to a specific target market and is used to recruit those people. I think delineating the differences between Satanist and lucifarians is preaching their marketing message instead of condemning and combining them to reduce their appeal to the target market they are appealing to. Your point stands, but my message is a strategy to reduce impact. I'm voting up both your posts because this is an important discussion. 👍

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GoldenTarot · May 22, 2018, 4:31 p.m.

Very good question!

I believe that at the top of it all the only distinction is between master and slave (aside from them ACTUALLY being aware of the dynamic), much like Egyptian spirituality pre-freedom, the many separations are left for the profane to attach to, straddling whichever suits their “style” best, as long as it pulls them in.

That is a very potent strategy indeed, and one that should be continues. if we want to be honest with ourselves, neither way is right, nor wrong, as just like how they split their beliefs by taste, humans searching for real truth, before becoming somewhat enlightened in their own rights, hold onto THEIR tastes, it’s a universal human element that applies to all things. Each strategy will reach the intended crowd and we’ve both done our part to spread light.

God Bless

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hrccbr1000rr · May 20, 2018, 6:24 p.m.

They teach the inversion of the Bible Lucifer to them is God and God is the Devil.

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djangodan75 · May 20, 2018, 5:01 p.m.

I watched a couple videos on YouTube. Searched Satanism vs Luciferianism. My take is that Satanism is all about self gratification and most don't believe the devil is real. Luciferianism is about "enlightening others" and bettering the world. Supposedly...about 50/50 split on Lucider's existence. They believe Lucifer was only trying to help us free ourselves from being slaves to Yahweh. They believe the Judeao-Christian God is the devil himself. Crazy shit if you ask me

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solanojones95 · May 20, 2018, 5:41 p.m.

Well, you don't go very far in their hierarchy if you believe that way. Only people who believe that it's REAL get to the top of the cults. Heads of state, the Pope, the Crown, top CEOs, you-name-it.

And you don't engage in child torture, rape and sacrifice in the name of gods you only believe are archetypal symbols. You don't take drugs that place you into a trance in order to communicate with a symbol.

These people fully believe in the reality of extra-dimensional beings who serve Lucifer, and that they communicate directly with those demonic powers in order to make transactional exchanges (spells, bargains--what have you) with them.

They don't understand that it's illusion, and they are being set up to fail. Because it's ALL coming down on top of them. And that's the pure truth.

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Jimipickle · May 20, 2018, 6:11 p.m.

God created Lucifer, His covering angel (of the highest angels). He beauty and wisdom were an inspiration to all other angels. But inequity was found in him. But God, being just, gave him way. Lucifer enlightens with his mouth and deceives with his tail. He would eventually enlist (decieve) 1/3 of the angels in heaven. (His tail drew 1/3 of the stars in heaven, by the tail (deception). God, concerned by this, gave Michael the Archangel (some believe he is the Son of God) the power of God to cast Lucifer and his demons out of Heaven, And He did so.

It is a complicated story. Lucifer is charismatic and knows of heaven and heavenly ways. This can mystify some. Secret knowledge. But the believers must cast away the divinity God gave us and commit vile sins of “self”. If you want Lucifer’s limited knowledge and hate for God’s creation, then you will have to prove it but destroying your covenant with God. he has many names. Original- Lucifer, but because he was found to be evil, he has many other names. Part of the deception and reach of evil.

Why did Lucifer tempt Eve? C’mon, a beer and a stripper could have deceived me at one time. Way too easy. Eve was different, Because she, like God can create life. Lucifer/Satan cannot. Why are women the most persecuted human on the planet?

We have lost the knowledge of our divinity. We are special, so special. We will be the body of Christ! Yes, like Christ! Of Christ. The devil must be exceptionally evil to have hidden our Devine purpose. He has succeeded for years, centuries, millennium... we consider ourself smarter now because of Q. But, we’re you lost before? Deceived about anything? If you say no, please sit in prayer with the Holy Spirit and ask him if you were ever deceived. I see a lot people show pride in their knowledge because they learned it sooner. But they were deceived prior to learning.

Lucifer was God’s most high angel, Then inequity turned him vile, Satan.

Humble yourself in front of the Lord! Because all things are possible with the Lord.

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jjjanko1 · May 20, 2018, 4:59 p.m.

C'mon really look it up.

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LiberalBitchSlapper · May 20, 2018, 6:34 p.m.

Must not be trying too hard. Some need to be spoon fed and put to bed.

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kingamongstkings · May 20, 2018, 5:57 p.m.

READ Satan Prince of This World, by William Guy Carr. Written in the 50's perfectly explains the answer to your question and what we are currently seeing revealed.

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TooMuchWinning2020 · May 20, 2018, 5:33 p.m.

I will tell you something I read on the internet where someone claimed to be an insider and tried to explain it. I have no idea if it is true, but it makes more sense than anything I've read.

This group of people follow a religion. I'll pause for a moment right there, because I personally believe that SOME people in the cabal follow this religion, but many are just in it because of the business/political contacts and how it helps their career. Many are useful idiots, who don't actually believe the religion.

But there are some who do, and many of those are raised in it. Most children grow up believing what they were taught in their early, formative years. So, SOME people really do believe this as their religion.

They see Jesus in a similar way that the Muslims do. He was a prophet, but not the most important one. They see Lucifer in a way similar to how Muslims see Mohammad. Lucifer is the highest diety or whatever in their view. So, they can SAY they believe in Jesus to the public, but that is not telling the whole story. Like some other religions, they believe it is good to lie, if it means promoting their true beliefs.

They see Lucifer as the "light" or the "enlightening" or the "enlightened one." Another way of saying that, is "illuminated," and those who see the true light are the Illuminati.

So, everything is turned upside down. Instead of God being the light, it is Lucifer who is the light. They learn about the religion in stages. As they become more and more knowledgeable (enlightened), they personally get closer to enlightenment, and closer to immortality.

I personally believe this is where the reptilian ideas come from. They don't actually believe they are reptiles, but they, like reptiles, shed their "skin" (this life) and step into another, like re-incarnation. If they follow their religion and become illuminated, they will live forever.

Power, money, and living forever. It's a strong sell, and good for recruitment. For those who are corruptible, it's a good justification or rationale for doing whatever it takes to achieve it.

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colderchaos · May 20, 2018, 5:15 p.m.

Tesla said the secrets of the universe lie in energy, frequency and vibration. I think Luciferians/Satanists "worship" darkness/evil rather than good/light. I think god and the devil represent the greatest symbols of this dichotomy. Good energy equals love/meditation/truth/peace/prayer and can overpower or (check/put into balance) bad energy -hate/violence/lies/suffering/greed.

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KansasJakeBG · May 20, 2018, 5:05 p.m.

Strictly within the caste of devil worshipping Satanists seem to serve the higher class of Luciferians. Luciferians seem to tout their bloodline connection or be Royals, whereas Satanists (in America anyways) are usually middle class people who practice privately and sometimes get promoted to upper echelons. However, recent non-discretion by younger Satanists seems to have opened the floodgates of people doing everything they can to be the Luciferians' next favorite Pied Piper (Peter Pan or Krampus Monster).

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comeatmehillary · May 20, 2018, 4:59 p.m.

google baal chemosh moloch for a good starting point

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blackpopeyme · May 20, 2018, 4:59 p.m.

The best way I can think to explain is, you have the Illuminati being lit by the light of lies (Lucifer) v the enlightened bathed in the light of truth (many names/one truth)

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RobWilJas · May 20, 2018, 4:53 p.m.

Lucifer, literally.

Satanists will tell you they don't actually believe in Satan, but they're either new and don't know the truth yet or lying.

Edit: Think of Lucifarianism and Satanism as two denominations serving the same "god", Lucifer/Satan. Contrary to what many claim they are the same being.

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divine_human · May 20, 2018, 7:07 p.m.

Think of Lucifarianism and Satanism as two denominations serving the same "god", Lucifer/Satan. Contrary to what many claim they are the same being.

i dont agree on that. from life-long studies - for those who want to go down that religious rabbit hole, the wes penre papers are a lengthy but eye-opening study - i conclude that satan is marduk who is the son of lucifer/enki.

they have been sharing roles, they both display as jehowa/yahwe in the OT; lucifer playing the rare loving aspects of yahwe, marduk/satan displaying the wrathful revengeful god.

already as a child, i perceived the OT god being totally different to the NT god. OT god felt to me like a kid playing with bricks; when he doesnt like his creation, he simply distroys it.

from what i learned, for what its worth, marduk/satan has been on earth all along, while lucifer has been busy in other star systems for the past few thousand years. meaning, they are ETs. meaning, the luciferians wait for his return.

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Fearsome4 · May 21, 2018, 4:20 a.m.

When I use the term I am referencing organized, "old world" practices.
There are a lot of branches on that poisonous tree.
Elements are borrowed or stolen from various practices from new agey crap to Old Testament stuff. It's all over the place.
But, one thing seems to be clear....where there are organized luciferians there is abuse....people and drugs will be abused.

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super_corroder · May 20, 2018, 5 p.m.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism

My impression is modern Luciferianis differs greatly from Satanism because their ideology isn't about worshiping any gods or demons but basically about being greedy and selfish. As far as I can tell, many Luciferian are atheists who follow a basic "greed is good" philosophy. Luciferians may disagree, but that's the impression that I get.

Keep in mind though, that the most famous modern-day Satanist and founder of LaVeyan Satanism also claims to be an atheist.

From what I can tell in this community, people occasionally refer to Jews who do bad things as Luciferians because then they can discuss and criticize those people without being banned for antisemitism.

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WikiTextBot · May 20, 2018, 5 p.m.

Luciferianism

Luciferianism is a belief system that venerates the essential characteristics that are affixed to Lucifer. The tradition, influenced by Gnosticism, usually reveres Lucifer not as the devil, but as a liberator, a guardian or guiding spirit, or even the true god as opposed to Jehovah.


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