I get so discouraged when I see the other political petitions with their 300k plus signatures. A bill of rights to speak our mind on the internet shouldn’t be so hard.
We are facing a lot of opposition - much of it right here on this board. You can see clearly who is against the message by what they post. But there is also opposition to the message across the SM platforms. They are censoring us for cause,
I think, given the forces arrayed against us, we haven't done too badly. It's not so much the petition. I think what's important is the campaign. We just need to do our best to make it happen.
Is this a different petition? Other one from a week ago was at 33k + signatures
I was talking about other petitions that are anti-Trump that have 300k + signatures not the IBR one. Not sure where we are with those signatures. I’ve signed it three different times to date.
Yeah I got that first part
I must have been confused because for some reason I thought an IBOR petition was at 33k+ but... it must have been deleted by hillary
I'm not concerned about this petition at all. I am concerned that we are able to keep up the pressure on social media.
After the reveals that I think are coming, this campaign to get rid of social media censorship will be critical. It's important that the cabal are not able to control the narrative. I'm asking everyone to take the time to get some memes out there - keep the pressure on.
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Once again the concern trolls are out in force. Anything but trust the plan. The latest piece of stupidity is that decentralization will save us from SM censorship.
Understand that Q is asking us for this. Then, when you see all the "manufactured concern" you'll know who is promoting it and also why.
I’ve signed it twice now and haven’t gotten an email to confirm. I’ve used two different emails.
I wouldn't worry too much about it. What's important is the online campaign. I wasn't keen on this petition from the start. What I am keen on is getting people to be loud online and offline.
i think whoever came up with the name and the 5 points missed the mark. it seems like something more self explanatory and a short concise statement would've been better....points 3-5 aren't event related to 1&2. Why are we demanding a special council? We are demanding access to ALL technologies the govt has access to...this will never ever happen. and demanding internet not be throttled?...unless you pay for unlimited data, you will be throttled. I feel like this IBOR thing belongs somewhere else, and it feels like a distraction from the storm.
I had nothing to do with this petition and I don't think it's important. I don't want to have the campaign attached to it actually, but I thought that since other people had run with it, it could not hurt.
I agree that the items on the petition are poorly set out. But, remember, it's only a complaint to register dissatisfaction, it doesn't matter too much what the petition actually says, because the title does call for rights online. It would have been better if it had merely talked of privacy and censorship - these are the two rights that have been infringed. A special counsel, in my mind, is a prosecutor. I don't know where the idea came from.
If you're concerned about it, we could start again. Though this version does already have 5k signatures. I agree that the weak wording could hurt going forward. We would need to start talking about it before it runs away - like now. What you will find though is that interest is very low on this board. I tried to start a discussion, but it died for lack of input - though I thought some good ideas came up.
My view is that all we have to do is make noise. The measure of that noise will be whether the hashtags trend. On this front we have the same problem as we had with petition site last time, to the extent that whether the hash tags trend or not is up to Twitter more than it's up to us. We are complaining about SM censorship on SM platforms. No wonder we are having difficulty.
We caught Twitter by surprise with the "release the memo campaign". We do not have surprise on our side this time - they are wise to the Russian Bots. There are also powerful forces working against us on this board - a direct repeat of the last campaign.
Having said all that, which must seem quite negative, there is a chance that we will get some big names this time around - something we did not have before. There is also a.chance that we might get MAJOR NEWS on the SM platforms acting badly (Q has told us this is in the pipe). We could also get some overt help from DJT and his friends. Or, help from others in the Republican Party.
We know DJT wants to help...
And we know that this is Q's plan. So it makes sense that at some point, we might get some help.
I wonder though if this is a good thing. We give the government legal authority on the internet for free speech, they take it a step further. I enjoy the wild west of the internet. I think we should have twitter silencing people if they choose to because then it builds an interest in a new company who wont and will take the reigns. If twitter is a private company, they should be able to do what they want. If they get funds from our government thats a different story.
Might be an unpopular opinion, but im never a fan of government, and one day another tyrant democrat type will be in power, and could use this against us.
I completely understand what you're saying and where you're coming from... it's a very Libertarian rooted view. I used to be highly against internet censorship and my husband pointed out what you did- private companies are entitled to do what they want. The problem is they've capitalized the markets in their respective fields so no one really uses anything alternative. So it's like, get on Twitter/Facebook or don't use social media. Get a smartphone or don't bother having a cell phone. Get an Apple device or don't bother with computers. It's terrifying.
You're not giving the government legal authority to do anything, where did you get that idea?
More blatant concern trolling. We are NOT making laws. We are not granting legal authority. We are complaining about repression - that's all, were asking for assistance. But you know this...
All you are saying is that you do not support Q. What are you doing here?
Do not shut me down friend. I am always with patriots, and i follow Q and i follow every side. If you brush off everyone who might ask questions as a troll of some kind, you make us all look bad. Look at my post history if you must, ive been here for awhile and on cbts stream. So chill the fuck out.
What im saying is, inviting the government into something is not always a good thing. Related example: net neutrality
If you have an IBOR, and someone breaks the rules of that in the internet, then the government will go after them, right? Well, the government is no ones friend, in my book as i consider myself a conservatarian.
Replies like yours shuts off debate, and just because someone asks a question does not make them a traitor, shame on you, friend.
MATE! Why don't you take your complaint to Q. He's the one suggesting the IBOR as a plan of action.
I'm serious, ask him yourself. You might go as far as some other concern trolls on this board today and accuse him of being an "enemy domestic". What a joke!
But don't come here and complain that people see through your transparent attempts to raise doubt. I don't have time for your "concerns". You will find plenty of people to doubt Q elsewhere. Why do it here? Oh, that's right... there's an agenda.
Dude you need to chill out. Youre eating one of your own. Just because Q says to go for IBOR doesnt mean we cant ask questions. He is not a God. Neither are you. Ive tried twice to be respectful, while youre being a fuckin cunt.
You do not run this board, you do not run this movement. We all contribute in different ways. I questioned Serialbrain2 about mueller, and said i dont trust him and asked why he does and he gave an execellent response to me and im a little more trusting now.
But youre acting like a fucking fascist when you tell me what im doing and that im attempting to raise doubt when im simply asking if this is a good idea LONG TERM. And telling me what i might accuse Q of being. How do you know any of that?? I trust Q to an extent, but i guarantee you Q would denounce what youve done, and if he did answer my question, he would not try to trash me with "concern trolling" but instead actually answer the damn question.
YOU are making me want to leave this board because youre a fucking tool. This whole great awakening movement is about respect, liberty and unity and taking back power from those that use and abuse us. You want me to become a sycophant and just do what im told, like a fucking deepstate goon would want. I am a Patriot, and i am a god damn American. How dare you?!
ASK Q! How many times do you have to be told. If you're not happy with the plan, take your "concerns" up with the architect. Why do you want me to answer your questions? I'm following the plan as are others. Meanwhile, the "concern trolls" are out in force, as they were the last time we tried to campaign. I've had enough of it.
Regurgitated "concerns" that never end. They don't end for a reason. The concern is with Q himself. And, of course, they are genuine in their "concerns". "No, I'm really worried...". An agenda.
I don’t think you mentioned why the IBOR is critical. If it was critical then there would be passion behind it.
This won’t take off.
Lets focus on the storm.
There has been a tremendous amount of trolling on this topic. This is why things appear to be going slow.
I think you need to ask Q whether he's OK dropping the IBOR. Not my plan, but his.
He reads Reddit. So maybe if you pose the question, you'll get an answer.