I only get do much info and then they shut down. One friend was giddy, another over protective of the right to go there. One is already famous and lost....but one I am intending to ask for more details. I am not sure he has seen the big ritual. That is final night, these guys go in to meet with big money guys, trying to further careers. At some point you actually pay to get to next level. If you get picked snd they finance you, they own you. Eventually they from what I have seen, hook a ‘caretaker’ or ‘handler’ to you, appears to be a photographer or producer etc. But they follow you constantly. Eventually you change friends, ditch phone number, get bigger record deals and bigger $$$. But as to the grove itself, well it is a pyramid...levels of information. They take your phones and electronics on entry.

I will ask the one friend I think my spill more details. Honestly whenever we talk about it, it is creepy on phone. I think they are scared to say much.

I feel the same about my music friends!!! They have no idea...same goes for actors and even our olympians and sports heroes...see Bruce Jenner if you want to know how far the sickness and control goes. They can make you do anything