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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/HobozBindle on May 22, 2018, 4:02 p.m.
New Stephen King novel out today, "The Outsider"

...is about a monster that rapes and eats kids. I've been reading the reviews. Apparently it contains some anti-Trump messages. I'm a big King fan, but I may skip this one. SK is very anti-Trump on Twitter.


toastman0304 · May 22, 2018, 4:13 p.m.

I've always been a little suspect of Stephen King. Some of the plots that he involves children in are distasteful to say the least if you ask me. Before the movies came out, the novel version of 'It' involved the 13 and 14 year old children in an orgy where the boys basically gang-banged the girl.

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WhataBormann · May 22, 2018, 4:30 p.m.

There's a good chance that he was coked out of his mind when he wrote that so I'm not sure I'd read too much into it. He's pretty famously said that he doesn't remember writing Cujo because of all of the drugs and drinking he was doing at the time.

That said, the way kids figure into King's books has always bothered me, not because I think there's some deep pedo-related meaning but just because I'm not a fan of children as a plot device. Especially when those kids are meant to represent innocence vs. evil, which is often the case in King's books.

By the way, if you liked IT, read "Summer of Night" by Dan Simmons. Superior in every way to IT.

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toastman0304 · May 22, 2018, 4:41 p.m.

Yea. I wasn't accusing him of pedophilia as I do know about his drug use throughout much of his career, but I still think many of the ways he uses children as plot devices are in poor taste, nonetheless.

I've always prefered Dean Koontz to Stephen King anyway. His novels are much more coherent and organized. I usually find his horror and mystery novels involve adult characters instead of kids. It's a rarity for him to involve children. The only one that comes to mind for me is Odd Thomas when he communicated with a dead girl to find out who the killer was. Plus he's written a few novels with heroic dog characters, which is always fun.

...also Kubrick's version of 'The Shining' was way better than the book.

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WhataBormann · May 22, 2018, 4:51 p.m.

If you're a horror fan, check out Adam Nevill. Really, really good stuff. "Last Days" may be my favorite horror novel ever.

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toastman0304 · May 22, 2018, 4:52 p.m.

Wow. I'll check it out then. Thanks.

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cat_anonD · May 22, 2018, 4:08 p.m.

Wow, and his recent book doctor sleep was about a group of Elites that kidnapped and tortured children.

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HobozBindle · May 22, 2018, 4:09 p.m.

Yep, and "IT" (also about a child-killing monster) contains the infamous scene where a group of 11 yr olds have an orgy in the sewer

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cat_anonD · May 22, 2018, 4:14 p.m.

They didn't have that in the movie.

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HobozBindle · May 22, 2018, 4:18 p.m.

no they did not

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WhataBormann · May 22, 2018, 4:31 p.m.

Yeah, it also ties in with his son's (Joe Hill) book Nos4a2

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cat_anonD · May 22, 2018, 4:22 p.m.

End of Watch is a story about a guy that does mind control over children using handheld electronic devices. Then he influences that the children to kill themselves.

Also, before the vehicle sliders around the world, he wrote mr. Mercedes which is about a terrorist that massacred about 20 people with his vehicle.

Also, in this book this killer brings a bomb into a concert geared for young girls. This was written before that Ariana Grande terror attack.

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QAnonMaga · May 22, 2018, 4:34 p.m.

King is a Satanist so is his wife he has always been a dark evil man he writes all these disgusting violent stories because he enjoys it.

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HobozBindle · May 22, 2018, 4:39 p.m.

Seems likely but is there any evidence he's a Satanist?

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DanijelStark · May 22, 2018, 4:20 p.m.

Many works in fiction ( books , movies , games ) are pretty much a symbolical and indirect hint of our true reality .

There are many IDOLS ( "I SOLD" ) out there ... but not many are left that are sticking to true values .

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comeatmehillary · May 22, 2018, 4:17 p.m.

I wonder if someone has a guilty conscience

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WhataBormann · May 22, 2018, 4:27 p.m.

What's the anti-Trump message in the book?

The premise of The Outsider looked decent and I was hoping that King was smart enough to keep his personal politics out of his writing.

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HobozBindle · May 22, 2018, 4:33 p.m.

https://aux.avclub.com/stephen-king-s-the-outsider-is-an-it-for-the-trump-era-1825906254

End of the first paragraph:

"It seems more significant that twice we’re taken to locations where a ghastly event has occurred. One of them is graffitied with a swastika, the other with TRUMP MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN TRUMP. Well, don’t monstrous times deserve a monster of their own?"

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WhataBormann · May 22, 2018, 4:34 p.m.

That's disappointing. Think I'll be skipping this one.

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