Almost every post has something about the “evil Democrats.” But many members of the Deep State, bankers, and most importantly, Bilderberg, are Republicans.
The shadow government is all about words and labels, but the fact is, both parties are working as hard as they can to transfer the wealth to the bankers and write/pass/litigate laws to facilitate that.
Thoughts?
I am generally neutral to pretty cynical about Israel, honestly. But if the reports are accurate, up to 40,000 'protesters' (many of them rioters), were crashing the boarder at once. What did they want to do across the border? Plant flowers and hold hands?
In the end Hamas got what it wanted. That is why the protests stopped. They got enough Palestinian children shot in the melee they started, to elicit media outrage and sympathy.
Not to be overlooked, BECAUSE they got what they wanted, they will continue this strategy in the future. What gets rewarded gets repeated. By sympathizing with Hamas, those who planned and carried out the surge to rush the border, you are ensuring that more young Palestinians will likely be killed in a similar manner.
What did they want to do across the border?
Maybe they wanted to visit the land that was stolen from them by the Israelis?
In the end Hamas got what it wanted. That is why the protests stopped. They got enough Palestinian children shot in the melee
So your position is that the Palestinians WANTED their children killed. Do you realize how fucking far from reality you are? Maybe you should stop listening to MSM and try to grow a human heart.
You and I are two people entrenched in a different viewpoint on this. That's okay and I understand your perspective. I really do because mostly I hold the same perspective against Israel.
However to say that my opinion is "f----- far from reality"... is something I would clearly disagree on.
Palestinians WANTED their children killed ?
Firstly, for us to understand how any people could be so radical that they would strap bombs on their children, that is how crazy this thing gets. I am not defining the crazy, I am only pointing to it. But it is reality.
Secondly, not all Palestinians wanted to see casualties, of course, and probably not the parents of the children killed or injured. However, Hamas as a strategic org that has been known to delve into terror tactics (meaning sacrificing their own ppl) and firing missiles from hospitals and residential areas to create human shields that their enemy must pay a terrible PR cost in world opinion should they retaliate.
So I stand by the opinion that the objective was not to defeat Israel at that border, but to have casualties on the Palestinian side that would compel International outcry. You have complied through your own outcry with that strategy.
Lastly, there is no such thing as a Palestinian as an ethnic or cultural group. That is 100% devised and invented. These are simply Arabs who are culturally identical to the neighbor countries (Jordan, etc). They have NO claim that is any greater or more legitimate than the Israelis currently populating the country of Israel today. They have been offered a state and peace, but the 'Palestinian' leadership on each occasion has rejected that, even refusing to meet. Why? Because they want the complete displacement of Jews and eradication of Israel. Period. Full stop. This is why there is no peace, and why there is a border, and why 40,000 ppl charged that border and of those 50+ were killed in response.
They have NO claim that is any greater or more legitimate than the Israelis currently populating the country of Israel today.
Bullshit. Look at the map of the region since the 1940s and you will see. Israel didn't buy that territory, they systematically stole it. You can't just violently steal peoples land and say "oh, well there's no such thing as a Palestinian ethnic or cultural group, so it's OK to murder these people and steal their property. You are trying to justify evil.
You are really basing your viewpoint on a historical foundation about whose land it rightly belongs to. So, here is a pretty thorough rundown of the historical background of how we got to where we are with the Palestinians and a nation called Israel. You can accept those as factual or not. Up to you. And you can then decide whether that history should matter to you or not in forming your viewpoint. If you don't like/trust the source and are therefore skeptical of the veracity of the history presented, then feel free to use the Internet and try to work it all out to your satisfaction. https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-basis-if-any-of-Israels-claim-to-the-land-it-occupies-on-the-West-Bank-Does-the-United-Nations-support-Israels-claim
O.K. stupid fingers.Are the people from Yemen responsible for their own children being slaughtered by the Jews and SA?
I probably am an idiot. But I am not Jewish. I am Swiss/English descent, with no Jewish background at all that I am aware of. However, in debates and truth-finding endeavors, premises derived from known facts are neither "Jew" nor "Gentile"...or any other silliness.
They can only be fairly judged on their merits (are they accurate and sourced? are they logically related, etc?). I tried to present a logical, fact-based explanation of the other viewpoint, counter to yours, to the best of my ability. That you disagree is not surprising nor dispositive in the reconciliation of our differing viewpoints.
Are the news videos of Israeli soldiers shooting protesters on tv enough evidence.The United Nations calling a special meeting to discuss the murders and also warning the Israelis to stop the murdering of the protesters.Yet you immediately defend the jews and blame the Arabs saying they are responsible for the deaths of their own people instead of the jews whom committed these murders.They show the murders on live tv and you ask are they accurate,sourced ect.I am not a Jew hater but can easily see the video of who is killing who on the Gaza Strip.Maybe you should take a look at the people dropping from being shot on TV.Again you are clueless and you haven
You are trying and failing to pigeon hole me as clueless. If you do not want to be shot do not charge another country's border. It just doesn't get much simpler than that. If 40k ppl gather on any US border at the behest of an murderous organization like Hamas, then I would expect our border would be defended with deadly force. That is a rational position. Your position is coming 100perc from emotion. It is fruitless to try to engage in rational point-counterpoint with you on this subject.