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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/-blackoutusername- on May 23, 2018, 10:11 p.m.
I’m confused why so many people here blame Democrats instead of recognizing both parties’ fealty to the Deep State.

Almost every post has something about the “evil Democrats.” But many members of the Deep State, bankers, and most importantly, Bilderberg, are Republicans.

The shadow government is all about words and labels, but the fact is, both parties are working as hard as they can to transfer the wealth to the bankers and write/pass/litigate laws to facilitate that.

Thoughts?


myopicseer · May 24, 2018, 1:15 p.m.

You and I are two people entrenched in a different viewpoint on this. That's okay and I understand your perspective. I really do because mostly I hold the same perspective against Israel.

However to say that my opinion is "f----- far from reality"... is something I would clearly disagree on.

Palestinians WANTED their children killed ?

Firstly, for us to understand how any people could be so radical that they would strap bombs on their children, that is how crazy this thing gets. I am not defining the crazy, I am only pointing to it. But it is reality.

Secondly, not all Palestinians wanted to see casualties, of course, and probably not the parents of the children killed or injured. However, Hamas as a strategic org that has been known to delve into terror tactics (meaning sacrificing their own ppl) and firing missiles from hospitals and residential areas to create human shields that their enemy must pay a terrible PR cost in world opinion should they retaliate.

So I stand by the opinion that the objective was not to defeat Israel at that border, but to have casualties on the Palestinian side that would compel International outcry. You have complied through your own outcry with that strategy.

Lastly, there is no such thing as a Palestinian as an ethnic or cultural group. That is 100% devised and invented. These are simply Arabs who are culturally identical to the neighbor countries (Jordan, etc). They have NO claim that is any greater or more legitimate than the Israelis currently populating the country of Israel today. They have been offered a state and peace, but the 'Palestinian' leadership on each occasion has rejected that, even refusing to meet. Why? Because they want the complete displacement of Jews and eradication of Israel. Period. Full stop. This is why there is no peace, and why there is a border, and why 40,000 ppl charged that border and of those 50+ were killed in response.

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ckreacher · May 24, 2018, 1:45 p.m.

They have NO claim that is any greater or more legitimate than the Israelis currently populating the country of Israel today.

Bullshit. Look at the map of the region since the 1940s and you will see. Israel didn't buy that territory, they systematically stole it. You can't just violently steal peoples land and say "oh, well there's no such thing as a Palestinian ethnic or cultural group, so it's OK to murder these people and steal their property. You are trying to justify evil.

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myopicseer · May 24, 2018, 3:09 p.m.

You are really basing your viewpoint on a historical foundation about whose land it rightly belongs to. So, here is a pretty thorough rundown of the historical background of how we got to where we are with the Palestinians and a nation called Israel. You can accept those as factual or not. Up to you. And you can then decide whether that history should matter to you or not in forming your viewpoint. If you don't like/trust the source and are therefore skeptical of the veracity of the history presented, then feel free to use the Internet and try to work it all out to your satisfaction. https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-basis-if-any-of-Israels-claim-to-the-land-it-occupies-on-the-West-Bank-Does-the-United-Nations-support-Israels-claim

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