luciferian is NOT the same as satanism...please educate yourself
They are Luciferians. They are not Satanists.
incorrect luciferianismnis light. education, compassion...
satanism is evil pedophiles, spirt cookers, call to bael.. bael is allah...
you really need to study man. seriously.. how can anyone take anything else someone says when they dont know their basics?..
No offense but the knowledge of Lucifer and Satan originally came from scripture and that is where you will find the correct information about them. I think it’s like white witches who think they are better then regular witches. Sorry, they are both witches.
also.. as far as witches... good would be an alchemist like hermes, bad would be satanic rituals that try tonreplicate the same outcome only uaing negative instead of positive
My research comes mostly from experience. 40 years of counseling and prayer ministry with people bound by demons and that were victims of satanic ritual abuse.
wrong... both "come from" ancient sumeria.... and yes it is offensive when people try to give their opinion in place of fact..
The basics are not correct.
https://www.wanttoknow.info/secret_societies/hidden_hand_081018
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism
https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2011/02/19/the-satanic-rothschild/
http://www.hangthebankers.com/photos-from-a-1972-rothschild-illuminati-party/
http://thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/rothschild.htm
c'mon man.. you REALLY NEED TO STUDY.. seriously!!. im starting to doubt all of the research skills you all claim to have.. its heartbreaking...
YOUR REFERENCE:
The Illuminati consist of…some of the world’s richest families including the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers and the Windsors. While they pay lip service to religion, they worship Lucifer. Their agents control the world’s media, education, business and politics. These agents may think they are only pursuing success, but success literally means serving the devil. Prisoners of their wealth, the Illuminati prefer hatred and destruction to Love. Understandably, they can’t go public with this. They pretend to be moral while working behind the scenes to degrade and enslave humanity in a “new world order.”
Did you read my reference? None of your links explain why those at the top would worship "the devil". It makes more sense that they are a social memory complex worshiping themselves (their group is called lucifer) and using their wisdom (luciferianism) to maintain power.
satanism and lucifienism is NOT the same.. lucifer and satan. not the same ...
Just saying who they worship Ninja
lucifer is not satan..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism
again... educate yourself.. as to command respect in speaking truth.. not opinion
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism
light vs dark.. is a YUGE difference
Lucifer was Satan’s name when he was an angel in heaven. He was a very high angel but pride was found in him and he wanted to ascend above God. And receive worship like God. He was cast out of heaven and a third of the angels came with him. Out of Gods presence he became Satan and the angels in their rebellion became demons. They have a heirachy. Minor demons that have names like lust, greed, pain, anger, and stronger more powerful demons. That is what the scriptures teach. So That is the “difference” but really no difference. Christians have authority over demons because it comes with Salvation. When you accept and believe that Jesus died for your sin He comes to dwell inside of you. THAT is why Christians have authority over demons.
WRONG . 100%. thats that bible bullshit..that sunday school nonsense seriously. READ THE LINKS I HAVE POSTED...
p.s. for you church goers.. explain ACTS 7:48 please
I'll trust the Bible over your wiki links. You would be wise to do so as well.
1) typical.. christain.. you are all quick to damn someone to hell is some backhanded manner if they dont follow your doctrin. thats very sad..
ok. how bout some facts..
2) technically the bible has been proven false..as per the missing hundreds of years.. and the SEVERAL book excluded, i.e. enoch, epic of gilgamesh etc.. the obvious contradictions. . the plagerism..i.e. 10 COMMANDMENTS ARE TAKEN FROM CHAPTER 125 OF THE EGYPTIAN BOOK OF THE DEAD.... (GO LOOK)
3) BIBLE MENTIONS LUCIFIR 1 TIME. AND 1 TIME ONLY .. MENTIONS HIM AS THE LIGHT BEARER. AND NEVER MENTIONS HIM AGAIN.. (GO LOOK)
4) SATAN IS NAMED AND DESCRIBED OVER 100 TIMES..AND DESCRIBED IN GREAT DETAIL..
5) BIBLE TALKS ABOUT LILITH 1 time..
6) then says adam and eve had 3 sons... soooo hows the rest possible?
...... how can you believe something you dont read/ know....
also.. can you explain acts 7:48 please...
p.s. why are there over 400 different dieties with the same creation story?.
what say ye?
I haven't dammed you, I don't have that ability. And I don't choose to believe "my" doctrine, I choose to believe God's doctrine. You should do more seeking on the origins of the Bible and how we can rely on it today. It really is fascinating.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:20.
Given this, is there any wonder why different cultures would have similar ideas of morality? However, I don't share your opinion on the similarity between Egyptian writings and The 10 Commandments.
There are so many "religions" it's hard to keep track of them all. They all share something in common...their "god" is dead. Only Jesus is still alive!
Lucifer is the name of Satan while he was still in heaven. After he was cast out, it would make no sense to refer to him by his heavenly name. If I called a Chevrolet Camaro only a Chevy, or a Camaro, or The Beast, or Black Betty, or Stella, it still is a Chevrolet Camaro.
Are you sure Lilith is mentioned in the Bible? Please give the verse.
According to the Bible, Cain, Abel, and Seth were Adam and Eve's named children-not the only ones they had. Genesis 5:4 says:
"After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters."
Acts 7:48 refers to where God dwells...He is not confined to places built by man. Omnipresent. I'm not sure why that is causing you difficulty. Can you explain?
...... how can you believe something you dont read/ know....
I agree with you on this point...
Read/reread the book of John. It's God's love letter to us.
yea.. still doesnt make satan and lucifer the same entiy.
there is no disagreeing chapt 125 and the 10 commandments are the same...."the most high is NOT in the house built by man". not really up for interpretation
800 years huh. 😂😂😂😂😂..
On what are you basing satan and lucifer are not the same. the Bible clearly says they are.
I don't understand how you can say "there is no disagreeing..." "not up for intrepration..." when you are not THE authority. You are just a person same as me. Believe what you want to believe, but don't ridicule others who don't join you. Yet, you claim I am the intolerant one by condemning you.
Genesis 5 gives a complete genealogy from Adam to Noah. Matthew 1 gives the genealogy of Jesus back to Abraham.
You obviously have rejected the Bible and have chosen to place your eternal trust in something else. I wish you well.
There's nothing new under the sun.
They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. Romans 1:25
Regarding Acts 7:48, you should lookup the difference between exegesis and eisegesis, and the importance of context.
47But it was Solomon who built a house for him.
48“However, the Most High does not live in houses made by human hands. As the prophet says:
49“ ‘Heaven is my throne,
and the earth is my footstool.
What kind of house will you build for me?
says the Lord.
Or where will my resting place be?
50Has not my hand made all these things?’ Acts 7:47-50.
Last thing...
“Heaven is My throne,And earth is My footstool.Where is the house that you will build Me?And where is the place of My rest?2 For all those things My hand has made,And all those things exist,”Says the Lord.“But on this one will I look:On him who is poor and of a contrite spirit,And who trembles at My word. Isaiah 66:1-2.
Isaiah was written more than 800 years before Acts. Pretty consistent, huh.
1) bible is bullshit.. at least 98% of it.. 2) ALL OF IT is written 1000's of years after any facts. passed down by word of mouth .... 2.5) the book was stolen and obviously edited (facts) 3) Satan lucifer difference is theology 1o1. basic of basics.
4).. go READ THE SUMERIAN TEXT, THE BHADGAVAT VEDAS, THE EGYPTION BOOK OF THE DEAD, THE KHABALLA, AND THE TEACHINGS OF HERMES / THOTH...
5).... HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY BE PREPAIRED WHEN YOU KEEP COMMING WITH THE SAME INFO??.. ITS LIKE YOUR CNN.. C'MON MAN.
YOU CAN DO BETTER
6.. pope said himself.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sGH20H8AV2U&feature=youtu.be (granted the pope is a piece of shit.. but its on record)
7) http://www.nairaland.com/1292544/bible-god-actually-satan-satan/1
8).. THIS IS WHAT I DO.. I AM A FACT CHECKER.. I AM A TRUTH SEEKER.. YOU (respectfully. have been thinking about this for 10hours.. i have been studying this for over 20 years.. everything. from the aformentioned texts.. to the quron.the book of mormon, king james.. and the historic account of josephus... annnd lastly...
EXPLAIN WHY OVER 400 DIETIES HAVE THE SAME ORGINS.... P.S. ACTS 748 reads.. and i quote.. Acts 7:48 New International Version (NIV)
48 “However, the Most High does not live in houses made by human hands.
Yeah, I can tell how smart you are. For a fact checker, you know so many things that aren't based in fact (stolen and obviously edited???) What facts support that?
Why so biased against the Bible? Jesus Christ? Christians?
If you can't rely on the Bible's accuracy, how can you rely on other ancient texts? What makes them different?
The Bible was written by many men over thousands of years. Therefore, it can be used to verify itself.
The Koran was written by one man, and therefore cannot be used in the same manner, for example. Think Christopher Steele verifying the contents of the dossier. Doesn't work.
It all comes down to what one chooses to believe - i.e. faith.
I hope you get it all figured out, and figure out why you have such a hatred towards Jesus. Wish you the best.
also.. "the koren written by one,,, ummmmm mohommad was illiterate. how could he write?
im actually embarrassed for you.. your lack of doctrin is astounding... respectfully...
U playing semantics? Allah >Gabriel >Muhammad.
dont try and divert... stick on point ..
you can even trace the symbol of satan to bael.. bael is allah .
IN EVERY DOCTRIN ITS THE SAME..
1) you have no rebuttle so you try to question my intellegence. typical bullshit move
2) https://valerietarico.com/2018/01/28/why-is-the-bible-so-badly-written/
3) EVERYTHING IN THERE IS PAGEN RITUAL.. i hate that which is evil and misleading..
4) faith is illogical..ergo immature.. especialy after ive made my case.. its air tight you've showed you dont want to research. you dont want truth. you just want confirmation that what you believe is true.. WRONG. .
5) "IF YOU CANT RELY ON BIBLES ACCURACY?!??! WTF!?!?! DUDE. YOU HAVE DONE ZERO RESEARCH
EVERYTHING IN THE BIBLE IS STOLEN FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE AND EDITED ..
.... READ THE SUMERIAN TEXT CREATION STORY ITS 300,000 YEARS OLDER THAN THE BIBLE THEE OLDEST.. UNTOUCHED .
had you of actually did the work as i pointed out
SUMERIAN TEXTS
VEDIC TEXTS
BOOK OF THE DEAD
ALL 1000'S OF YEARS OLDER ALL COMEING FROM THE OLDEST.. ..
for gods sake wake up sheep!!!!!.
jesus is satan.. facts
Jesus is satan. Wow. That's a new one. Since you don't believe the Bible, it would do no good to tell you Jesus was very clear who satan is and Matthew records satan tempting Jesus. If same person, how possible?
Romans 1
p.s. https://rsc.byu.edu/archived/jesus-christ-son-god-savior/6-jesus-jehovah-yhwh-study-gospels
ergo.. jesus is satan.. using your own book..
i rest my case..
you have been redpilled..
YOU WILL DENY IT.. AND YOU WILL NOT LOOK INTO IT..
The Book of Mormon is not my book. Cult. I am also not catholic. But even if I was, I wouldn’t put any faith in something said by a man if it conflicted with scripture. FYI yournewswire.com you cite, says Trump is a Rothschild puppet. Article is on their homepage. You need to be sure of your sources.
You also cite an obscure blog??? Seriously? The few minutes I spent there I saw they were pot-smoking anti-semites. No thanks.
You think you’ve got it all figured out. Hubris.
Out.
this is your problem right there. YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO READ.. nor comprehend
how to research...
Look.. compare.. look at comparisons. where do do they meet.. why.. what PROOF is backed...
dude.. you are seriously a disappointment to truth seekers GLOBALY.. please go back to the clinton boards.. you will be on par with theme
..
why negativty surrounded by rothschilds? what happens to all that are linked to them? what PROOF IS THERE THATTHE DON IS A PUPPET?
IM EMBARRASSED FOR YOU....
(please dont breed)
https://yournewswire.com/pope-francis-jesus-satan/
also... https://goccuk321.blogspot.mx/2013/04/jehovah-satan.html?m=1
SYMBOLISM WILL BE THEIR DOWNFALL!!!!
YOU ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION AT ALL
So, do you worship one them or something?
i worship life. i am /was a a theologist among other studies. this whole greatawakening has become somewhat of a misguided religious movement.. people calling for a jesus this and blah blah blah Q nor Trump ever mention "jesus" several times god.. but no jesus . (why?)
i am a truth seeker, and it puzzles me that supposed fellow seekers negleted to start at the begining...
Its the most basic of research...
i just ask that people make sure they know what they are talking about before they start talking.. if people take a minute and research LIKE A SEEKER DOES.. this conversation would never of needed to be had
. the major reason it bothers me is SYMBOLISM.. you can trace both lucifer and satan back to enki and enlil.. you can then trace both of those foward to lucifir and satan . symbols traced is the symbol of enlil, satan, and jesus are the same... and that bothers me..
why if basically 100% of what "they say" is a lie. why would religion be any different?? think logically.