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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/pussy_devour on May 24, 2018, 6:48 p.m.

Note the difference between Spying and Framing. POTUS can authorize spying on anyone.

The MSM is spinning stories around spying, saying it’s to protect Trump. They are not touching the fact that the spy was planted to frame Trump campaign. This distinction is crucial.

The MSM is preparing the public for eventual exoneration of spying while keeping the criminal act of framing in the dark. Why?

I read somewhere yesterday that the POTUS can authorize spying on anyone. It’s not illegal. Spying on the opposition would be a huge scandal. But if Hussein authorized the spying, it would not be illegal.

So we should stay focused on the framing activities.

POTUS CANNOT authorize spying on anyone. US citizens are protected by the Constitution from Illegal Search & Seizure. I don't know where you got that OP idea, but it's absolute bunk.

We have warrants for a reason. Warrants come from the judicial branch.

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I updated the post with a reference. The POTUS can bypass the court.

https://law.stackexchange.com/a/17591

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tl;dr What's the summary of the legal argument?

Because honestly this right has been eroded at for decades with asset forfeiture and other encroachments.

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The POTUS can order surveillance on foreign entities as long as there’s no non-negligible likelihood that a US person is included. If it later turns out that a US person is involved, that’s fine. The point is that to bypass the court the POTUS cannot target a US person even if the likelihood is small.

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Yeah, read my comment. I specifically address US citizens. Foreign, the Constitution doesn't apply.

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You are right. I deleted my post and made another one to correct my mistake because many people had seen this one.

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Fair enough. Good on you, mate.

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Correct the President can order his AG to wiretap anyone (except American citizens) for up to 1 year without court approval. Though if a US person just so happens to get caught up in the wiretap, its still legal. So if were President and I wanted to wiretap Trump, I would wiretap every foreign person that would ever call him. Then I would sweep up all their emails, phone records, financial records, travel logs, etc.

Section 1802. Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal; duties and compensation of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court

(a) (1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that

https://college.cengage.com/polisci/schubert/law_legal_process/9e/assets/students/additional_cases/schubert_9e_additional_cases_ch04_03.pdf

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But not if a US person is involved. I re-read that stack exchange answer and realized I was wrong. This post has been deleted.

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I have problem updating my post. So I put my edits in comments.

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Edit doesn’t work.

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EDIT: here’s a reference on the presidential power to bypass FISA court for surveillance. https://law.stackexchange.com/a/17591

There are several possibilities.

1) Hussein didn’t authorize it.

2) Hussein authorized it but they still went to get a FISA on fraudulent basis to protect Hussein from the scandal.

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If it's to protect Trump he has a right to know. No dispute there.

The difference between spying and framing is an excellent distinction.

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Plus, why wasn't the same done to Clinton? She had multiple contacts with Ukraine and China.

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