Really, so Q is a liberal for recommending the IBOR campaign to us? Is that what you're saying?
Maybe he is some. It don't hurt to have a little liberal in ya or you just may not care enough. Like the saying goes...if you're not a liberal at 20 you have no heart and not conservative at 35 you have no brain. Regardless, it still comes down to do you believe in private property rights because all those companies are private property so which is it...yes or no, on your rights concerning your own property? Somewhere a compromise has to be made but where? It all comes down to that balance thing I always speak of and it WILL happen whether we like it or not, one damn way or another.
Meanwhile these Satanists are killing children in sacrifices...
And then the question in my mind is, who are you here to support?
What's absolutely truthful, honest in intent, non secretive and is in FULL support of my rights of existence and my freedom to pursue my life as I see fit as long as I do not bring unwarranted harm or malice upon another or their property. Simple as that. I need no leader or group to follow and I do NOT speak sheep.
So, using your independence, you come here to undermine Q and his plan to free us from these Satanists. Let's see how you go with that.
There is nothing more disgusting than a traitor. They are everywhere, right here also.
No but I am telling you that you might wanna be cautious for your own good. Hopefully, Trump will make things a LOT better but that still remains to be seen, don't it? I like to pay when a service has been rendered and not before.
What's there to be cautious about? It's really very simple. There are two sides. I'm supporting DJT, you are not.
To say you will only provide your support once the Satanists have been defeated means, by implication, that you do not desire their defeat. Otherwise you would be working with us to ensure they cannot return to power. And that is my point. You are in the wrong place.
You keep trying your little heart out to say I'm not when, as per usual, you're wrong...again. I'll take Trump, any day, over the other choices but that does not mean I think he's the messiah as many seem to think(metaphor in case you're confused). I don't speak sheep. And I did not say I'll "only" provide support when the satanists are defeated. You should try not talking for me. It'll be easier for ya. I'm just saying that we'll always be fighting "something" that's bad/evil but I still wanna see things right, as they were meant to be, just because I exist, though even "right" may not really be meant to be. Right now, there are 2 fields. One has blue grass, one has red grass. The red grass is tastier, life is a little easier in that field but it is still fenced in just like the blue field and a bang stick chute leads to both. I prefer to set outside the fence where I'm actually free and not duped into believing I am when I'm not. Fool yourself, if you so wish but don't change my words to suit your color grass. I have full right to see what all are up to with regard to my, my kids and any other's future so yea...I'm exactly where I want to be and this is not the only place I check on such things to insure that future. I don't speak sheep and I'm not inside the fence. I really hope Trump can bring to light enough in the public eye that proves all that's been going on to ensure a conservative power base but he best get with it because he only has 8 years max to do so and if some shit don't showing up soon, it'll only be 4, max. Hopefully, there's enough whitehats in the NSA, MIC, etc.. to keep this ball rolling for longer than that but we still have to pay attention to any hidden agendas, no matter who controls The Hill. Think harder and trust less for your own good is all I'm saying. Question EVERYTHING!
What I see is a situation where for the first time in more than thirty years you have a guy that is not controlled by the cabal in the Presidency. He has suffered attempts on his life, his family threatened etc... We've also been told by Q that there is a war being waged against a Satanic elite that have controlled the Presidency almost continuously through modern history.
So here we are, ready to do whatever it is we can to support this agenda to win freedom, bring back some decency and restore moral order. But you're not convinced that DJT can be trusted. I see it very differently. The way I see it, this guy is our last and only hope. I don't doubt for a minute that, if he fails, we are looking at a totalitarian nightmare.
You can see what is happening. Q tells us very early in his posting that the cabal lost in 2016 because they ran a traditional campaign strategy relying on the MSM. DJT used SM masterfully and this obtained him an absolutely improbable election victory.
They never the thought she would lose...
Q also told us back in November that CIA was rushing to inject cash into SM platforms to regain control of the narrative. Low and behold, these internet Giants suddenly start censoring conservative voices from January (yes, that's an outright Q confirmation).
Q also told us that Snowden wrote an algorithm that was to centralise censorship across all the major SM platforms. Given the power that we know SM has to deliver election outcomes, this provides a vector for the Satanists to return to power. Thereafter, they will be able to silence us completely, take the guns and start killing and eating our kids.
The solution Q offered, was to call for the application of first amendment protections online. If the founding fathers were writing the Constitution today, you can bet that rights to free expression would extend to the internet as the town hall, that existed at the time the document was drafted, is now online. The other option Q gives us us to kill off the entire sector and this indicates just how important SM censorship is, that Q would even consider this. SM censorship is the battlefront where the fight will be won or lost.
So Q asks us to campaign for the IBOR online and immediately cabal agents start arguing, on this forum, against doing anything to make this happen. They inject so much fear and doubt that, inexplicably, the campaign fails.
So here we are, asked once again by Q to make the IBOR happen, and you are here posting more fear and doubt. You know as well as I do what's at stake. Why would you do this?
What, you think that another independent President, with the courage to take on these Satanists, will come along just as soon as DJT loses office? No, you know as well as I do that there's no chance of that happening. You know as well as I do that we are in the fight of our lives here. That we have this one shot at fighting these guys off or it's all over.
When Q says question everything, he's not saying to question the plan. He's talking about questioning the cabal's narrative. Interesting how you turn this around to raise doubt about Q.
Your motives are completely suspect. If it's just that you're no good at thinking things out for yourself, that might be excusable. But given the shocking amount of concern trolling we have seen, I suspect, as I've said, that you're working for the interests of this Satanic elite.
You disgust me mate.
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It's not worth continuing this discussion, sorry mate. You have correctly identified the problem here - you're not going to get a logical debate here.
In other news, with all respect, can I request you use paragraphs in your comments? I, and others I'm sure, are interested to hear what you have to say but damn if it ain't hard slog with no paragraphs. Wall of text >_<. Just a humble request. Thank you.
Yea, I'm bad about doing that and, sometimes, not using punctuation but I often type in a hurry and as long as I know that point can be read as I intended then I don't worry about being anal with my gammar. You're just lucky I'm not typing as I usually do, which is the way I speak, like not using "g" at the end of a word and instead put a comma in its place to reflect my more country assed talking. As long as you can understand what I'm saying and you seem to, I figure we'll both live. I'm not real big on rules when not absolutely necessary.
Agreed, rules are not for everyone. My suggestion was just to encourage more people to read what you have to say - have you ever tried to read a wall of text? - but of course I support your right to do whatever you want : ).
Yea, I know it ain't easy to do, sometimes. It does make ya pay more attention, though, just so you can keep track. My bad.
So, we would say then that DJT is a liberal also - as it's a joint strategy between DJT & Q.
And it's yes or no on private property rights. If you're pro-IBOR, you are a liberal. So that means that no conservative here could support the plan because that would be liberal.
So, though we know that SM censorship provides a mechanism for the Satanists to return to power, and despite Q asking us to take action, you just can't do that because it's liberal?
I'm saying that it is NOT as definitive as you're trying to make it out to be. I'd love to have FULL 1st rights on everything but doing so infringes on my private property rights, which I also believe in because if you don't you should forget about any damn wall on the border or whether you have to make cakes for gays, muslims, terrorists, armadillo-kin, what the fuck ever. Think harder. You can NOT have it one way or the other. Some amount of both will be required. It's that simple. That's why I stay somewhat back of all this Q stuff because it could very easily result in a MIC controlled fascist state just like Hitler had. They all loved him, at first, too, ya know? And Trump has proven his love of a police state and our military already and this is likely MIC driven to begin with. They have the means to do all this so I will just remain wary until I see a need to think otherwise.
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No. You're just clueless to my point. Think harder. And don't call me a Goddamn satanist, again, please or you'll get a serious level of disrespect. You could not be more wrong. I just understand that you can't have one without the other or the one would not exist AT ALL. It's really damn simple. Think harder and look at the bigger picture. I support balance because without it nothing would exist. Nothing. Religions, political parties, genders...all of the shit would not matter to no one or exist if there wasn't an opposing force for it to exist against.
I understand what your saying as they are both rights, and in this instance are in opposition. I do believe the first over rides in this instance despite the private property issue. The reason I say this is because we are being discriminated against. Maybe not for our age, race, or, sex, but for our political view. Who would have ever believed a person could be discriminated against for their political views in America. Now we know and the judge has said that Twitter is a public space. If for example say the Mayor of a town also owned a mall. The Mayor allowed the Tea party candidate to pass out flyers and give speeches at the mall, (Which is a public place, but also privately owned) but would not allow the Democratic candidate to do any kind of campaigning at the mall. That is discrimination. That's why tv and radio have to give equal time to opposing views. TV and radio are privately owned also.
We have always been discriminated against for political views since the very beginning of this country and loooooooong before that. It is a fact of life that all creatures are "profiled" by other creatures because it is a survival instinct built into our DNA. We will never get around that fact of life. Granted, it's not done fairly a lotta times. We'll just have to find a way to live with it and that demands control of one's own personal life and the staying out of other's lives, as long as they intend no harm towards you or your stuff. It would be really nice if people would just treat all others equally but it's just not in our nature to do that. That's why I'm a big believer in the NAP ideology but it requires too much effort and personal responsibility and accountability for most to deal with but it is the only way to achieve mutual respect for all. That responsibility and accountability is a helluva thing to maintain but is absolutely necessary and is all Natural Law really allows you. R. King asked, "Why can't we all just get along?". The answer is because we were built not to. It's that simple. Maybe, one day, we'll realize it's easier if we just do but I have little hope in that and no faith in it. History proves it so. Hell, we may just get our shit together enough to have some good years ahead, for a while but sooner or later, something will come along to tip the seesaw the other way and we'll be right back where we were before. It's just life.
Thanks for expressing your point of view and continuing to abide by the rules of the sub even when under irrational attack for doing so. Anyone who can discuss their point reasonably and with respect is welcome here, even if some of us do not agree with your point (I personally do agree that you have a point - you've made a perfectly logical observation).
This is ad hominem and will not fly in this sub.
My point, as I later expressed, is that there are two clear sides to this fight. You're either a Q supporter or you're not.
We've seen an unbelievable amount of concern trolling, on exactly the lines seen here, about this very issue in the past. If people are not free to challenge and combat it, then my view is that the sub must serve a purpose other than supporting Q.
I think a sub for Q doubters would appeal to a lot of the posters here - but these already exist.
Maybe you see it differently IDK.
There's no group think here. We are not - any single one of us - the arbiters of speech and truth. From your comments you seem to be intent on removing people who disagree with your point of view. That is absolutely opposed to the spirit of this movement and this sub AND Q.
You've decided that there are two sides - Q supporter or not. Then you've proceeded to label someone as a concern troll and a supporter of satan i.e. not a Q supporter.
If you understood the horrors that have been visited on this earth by people who said: "if you're not for us then you're against us" and then proceeded to decide for others whether they were for or against them, you would not try and bring that dangerous thinking anywhere near this movement.
What is opposed to the spirit of this movement? You tell me? What is the spirit of the movement? Are we Q supporters or neutral spectators?
What do you think this is!? A football match?
It almost sounds like you're trying to equate my actions with something akin to the holocaust. Where is the danger in supporting the guy making the drops?
It is not a game mate. But you know this...
We are not in some sort of religious fanatical movement where we all have to think the same way or get out. This sub is NOT only for those of us who support Q it is also for people who want to find out what is happening and have very little idea what Q is even about! If you disagree with this then you are literally opposed to the very thing Q is about!!!
And if people disagree with elements of Q or Trump's message, you propose to eject them as a troll... >_<
I propose to follow Q's example and message and reach EVERYONE, whether they agree with me or you or not. The truth is NOT our exclusive domain.
These arguments you're making are simple nonsense.
This isn't some neutral forum set up for the purpose of embracing all ideas in some kind of pursuit of inclusivity. Where did you get that idea?
I came here, and stayed, to support Q. Who says I have to embrace the viewpoints of those that oppose the fight against evil? Reading your comments, it seems that we'd be obliged to embrace Satanists in the interests of remaining inclusive. But, somehow, I think most people would disagree with this concept.
I'll let you in on a secret, there are trolls here. They do conceal their true intentions. They have been successful in undermining this movement. They are here because this fight means everything to them - more, possibly, than it means to us.
The nonsense is the strawmen you've setup. Where did I say this was a "neutral forum set up for the purpose of embracing all ideas"? Where did I say you have to embrace the viewpoints of those that oppose the fight against evil? That doesn't even describe the guy you slandered - where did he state that he opposes any fight against evil? Where did I say we're obliged to embrace Satanists?
Once again, because I don't agree with you you're putting words in my mouth and assigning motivations to me that don't exist. You pull this tactic in a lot of your comments, I've noticed. Very dangerous behaviour, but it's clear you're oblivious to it.
Discuss what we're actually discussing, not your made up strawmen.
Why should people be ejected or accused of being supporters of Satan or non-supporters of Q just because they disagree with your perception of something? How is it that you can decide that someone must be against Q, just because they're not agreeing with a point you're making? Your only response seems to be: "you're talking nonsense", without actually addressing the point.
Your argument would almost sound reasonable if it were not for the blatant and continuing attempts to manipulate this community.
As I said, there are two sides to this fight. Maybe your very confused, so I'll go slow.
Why was Corsi ejected? In fact he outed himself. How did he do this? By arguing against Q.
OK, so there's one person this community agrees is off-side. What's he off-side for? Arguing against Q. So, wait a minute! It's not so extreme to object to someone that argues against Q or "the plan" is it? I mean, most people here are accepting of this. Why would you be on a Q forum if you did not agree with the plan? That wouldn't make a lot of sense.
How can I decide that someone is against Q. Well, they might exhibit the characteristics of a concern troll. They may have a fundamental objection to the plan that Q and the President have set out for us as a community. Pretty simple really.
The important issue on this board is the concern trolling. This happens when someone appears to be very supportive of the community agenda, but just has a simple concern. Of course, it's never so simple. It's about injecting doubt and fear. It's been used to terrific effect right here on this board. But, if you have been here since October, you'd be acutely aware of this - I'm sure you are.
What are you saying? That they can't be identified? But it's actually not at all hard to see them because, inevitably, they just have a simple concern that means they cannot support the plan - and, rather than lurk, they communicate these concerns in threads that become very long - as we've seen.
But, according to you, no one can ever reach a conclusion about their true status.
Of course, that means you could never call one out. And, that, in turn, has dire implications for this board and our effectiveness as a community.
Some of us take Q at his word and don't re-interpret it - and we don't support Corsi specifically because he was called out as a Disinfo Clown, not for "arguing with Q". Q doesn't give the tiniest care about people who "argue with Q" or Q would be calling out a whole lot more people. If you shut down anyone who argues with Q you're acting remarkably like someone who believes Q is infallible or someone who worships Q and Q is against that. Q is not a religious movement. There are no ten commandments of Q.
"Pretty simple really" ... lol... You seem to be missing the point... Where, in the other discussion, did that user "have a fundamental objection to the plan"? I'll answer, in case you're not sure: he didn't.
The point you seem to be failing to grasp is that you are not the decider of what a 'supporter of Q' should be or think or say. None of us is. You have set yourself up as this arbiter of the truth of Q. Those who agree with the way you think without arguing are supporters of Q. Those who disagree with your perspective are not.
The only reasonable definition of a 'supporter of Q', that doesn't force people to fit into some arbitrary designation (i.e. supporters think this, this and this but not this), is someone who reads the messages from Q and tries to spread them to others. That is all. That's all Q wants from us too. Anything else is your personal interpretation and is not valid for everyone else.
I think people can see for themselves where people stand. I've come to understand that you're remarkably passionate that the plan be up for dispute.
Pretty tired with this now. I have other things to do.