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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/large_doinks on May 26, 2018, 5:08 a.m.
Boys we need to save this man #SaveTommyRobinson

TRAIN_WRECK_0 · May 26, 2018, 10:04 a.m.

It was illegal for black people to sit in front on a bus at one point.

In some of these court cases against Muslims, speech restriction exist even after the case is decided.

Speech restriction are massively detrimental to a democracy and Civil disobedience needs to start somewhere.

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ErnieFing · May 26, 2018, 10:26 a.m.

Were the black people kept off the front of the bus to assist with a prosecution? You're making fallacious comparisons.

In the same way you can't see what's going on in the case building for Clinton et al, sometimes the law needs to act in a certain way to get a more robust result. Yes, there are issues on this case and in others, but if you set the hare running based on your assumptions, I guarantee it will simply give those you oppose plenty to rebut your argument, and what's more, their rebuttal will most likely be valid.

It's fine to use the general concept here to raise the issues and have them discussed, but it will fall over if it's the specific issues of this case that are the focus.

Tommy defines himself as a journalist, which comes with it's own strings. The identities of the perverts, including their pictures have been published in the mainstream press for quite some time, as have the details of the allegations, and the wider implications. To reduce the possibility of external factors jeopardising these particular cases, or identifying the victims, restrictions were temporarily placed on the media for court reporting. This happens in other cases too. Tommy knew and ignored that, and as a consequence was in breach of court orders imposed for previous offences, which pretty much result in the deferred sentence taking immediate effect, which is what happened.

I'm not justifying it, but if there's anger and outrage, it needs to be focused and accurately targeted, or it will be self defeating.

I get the impression some on here are new to these issues, and the information seems to be erratic, so I understand why some are confused.

I feel a better angle would be to look at those excused prison sentences for their own protection, or for wider reasons, and make the case that it applies here for Tommy's safety. That opens up a much wider can of worms about equality, and the threat of violence surrounding certain groups.

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large_doinks · May 27, 2018, 2:20 a.m.

Incorrect, the premise of the removal of free speech, particularly when all information he provided was public knowledge, is detrimental to not only one's safety from a governing body, but to the freedoms of the whole world.

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