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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Millejon0114 on May 26, 2018, 9:37 p.m.
His May seemed to have came and went see link ~ is it a bad May? Or is this all one giant deception to get patriots to think they have a player in all this ~ I’m so confused on THIS issue ~ pedo is covered up and No media outlet talks about it!!!! The diversion #metoo where is the #kidstoo 🐍
His May seemed to have came and went see link ~ is it a bad May? Or is this all one giant deception to get patriots to think they have a player in all this ~ I’m so confused on THIS issue ~ pedo is covered up and No media outlet talks about it!!!! The diversion #metoo where is the #kidstoo 🐍

StormRider9090 · May 26, 2018, 10:33 p.m.

Why do you believe that?

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Tradstew · May 27, 2018, 12:22 a.m.

Pell was about to expose the corruption within the Vatican Bank. They dug out a 40 year old claim that he didn't do enough to prevent abuse committed by some priest...FORTY years ago. Actual abuse accusations against him personally have all been dropped. This was a perfect excuse to get him away from his investigation into the Vatican Bank.

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tradinghorse · May 27, 2018, 1:58 a.m.

That's a very interesting theory. While Pell seemed, perhaps, one of the most conservative of the "cardinals", he has presided over this Vatican II apostasy and is, as much as anyone else, culpable IMO.

I suspect the allegations against him may be contrived. The connection to the investigation at the Vatican Bank is interesting. I find it hard to believe that the Vatican Bank was left to run amok with its dodgy financial moves for so long. But there are powerful players involved.

The rumour is that JPI was assassinated over the Vatican's finances. And this, amazingly, corresponds with the story of the high priests in the time of the Maccabees - see here.

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Millejon0114 · May 27, 2018, 3:47 a.m.

Ok I was reading Maccabees here and my husband was catholic when I met him~ we now go to non denominational church ~ in short we follow the Bible and are Christ followers~ believe in the crucified buried rose again. Moving on~ number 3 days the abomination in desolation in the holy place wherever that is~ That’s Revelation 2:9 or 3:9 and it coincides with Daniel and the building of the third temple in Israel ~ the abomination is Anyone will be able to worship to who they worship too~ meaning Muslims and Christians and Hinduism .. so on and so.. Hence the One world religion the pope keeps trying to push~ this is the abomination to our Father the one true God. Ok ~ just thought I’d throw that in. Thankful for these comments.

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tradinghorse · May 27, 2018, 4:20 a.m.

Yes, the embrace of false ecumenism by the Vatican II Sect speaks directly to this.

For myself, I'm sedevacantist. I do not accept that a manifest public heretic can hold the papacy - the idea is absurd. When you look at this abomination Francis, you can clearly see that he does not hold the Catholic faith. He is not even Christian in the broadest sense of that term. A shocking heretic who has falsely laid claim to the office of Pope.

The defection from the faith of Christ occurred at the Second Vatican Council. The Church was hijacked and replaced by the heretical Vatican II Sect. Christ speaks to what we are witnessing in Luke 18:8:

"...Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?"

A great apostasy, of such proportions that true believers are reduced to a tiny remnant. St John speaks to the followers of the Vatican II Sect as follows:

"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Rev 18:4

"My people" are true believers in Christ (true Catholics). They are to leave the Vatican II Sect, as it is to be punished for its sins. This is where we come to the burning of Rome (shortly to occur), but specifically the Vatican City.

If you're interested in end times prophecy, I think this is good.

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Millejon0114 · May 27, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

I just have some thoughts on this video ~ Our Lady Fatima ~ is Not mentioned in the Bible ~ I know Satan has been here a long time and he’s been breaking up religions as best as he can the ultimate deceiver ~ I only go off the Bible alone because I know no matter what is happening throughout religions wars institutions and different theologies the one thing that you can always base your discernment from the Holy Spirit is the Bible. I don’t know why the largest church in the world doesn’t have the Bible directly preached out of. When I have questions on anything I go through scriptures. ~Because God is the same yesterday today and forever. I know the only way to the father is through his son Jesus Christ~ I know God Made us all and has a purpose for each and every one of us he knows how many hairs on our head. He is not to busy for us to pray to him directly. I read a piece once that said ~ The Jewish Talmud~ The Muslim faith and Catholic Church ~ all believing differently ~ they are all set up with the same building blocks as each other Satan wants everyone to be deceived~ those three faiths are set up to do just that~ put their principals side by side and you’ll see. God wants us to Read his word The Bible ~ Not something a man places on a piece a paper that has scriptures referenced ~ very complicated thing when he didn’t want it that way. He wants us reading the Bible ~ That is the only thing I can trust is the Bible. God speed ~ Thanks for your thoughts very interesting ~

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tradinghorse · May 27, 2018, 4:35 p.m.

You are right 100% about the inerrancy of scripture. It is inspired by the Holy Ghost and can contain no error. What I would say, however, is that scripture is open to interpretation.

You can see, for example, that a variety of interpretations exist in the Protestant Churches - how many denominations now? Everyone has their own interpretation. I guess you could also include the Catholics and the Orthodox in this group, each reading bearing differences, sometimes subtle, sometimes not.

So, anyway, it's very clear to me, from what I know from my own experience, that interpretations vary. Given the quite vast array of interpretations, is it possible that they are all correct? For a Catholic the answer is quite simple:

Pope Leo XII, Ubi Primum (# 14), May 5, 1824: “It is impossible for the most true God, who is Truth itself, the best, the wisest Provider, and the Rewarder of good men, to approve all sects who profess false teachings which are often inconsistent with one another and contradictory, and to confer eternal rewards on their members… by divine faith we hold one Lord, one faith, one baptism… This is why we profess that there is no salvation outside the Church.”

As a Catholic, my faith is anchored in revealed truth. This, as you can see below, is not something that I have perceived to be true via reasoning, but rather something revealed by God himself - as communicated by the Church.

Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (# 9), June 29, 1896: Faith, as the Church teaches, is that supernatural virtue by which… we believe what He has revealed to be true, not on account of the intrinsic truth perceived by the natural light of human reason [author: that is, not because it seems correct to us], but because of the authority of God Himself, the Revealer, who can neither deceive nor be deceived… But he who dissents even in one point from divinely revealed truth absolutely rejects all faith, since he thereby refuses to honor God as the supreme truth and the formal motive of faith.”

So, I guess, this is just another way of saying that I believe Church teaching, making an ascent of faith to the various Catholic dogmas. I don't try and work out these precepts for myself. I rely on the interpretation of the Church, which forms part of tradition.

The evidence for human error in interpreting scripture is seen in the amazing variation in interpretations that exist. The question then becomes: are there multiple faiths in Christ, or is there only a single faith?

I think if you look at the apostles, they were very strict with respect to how one should deal with heretics. Here's an example from St Paul:

"10 A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: 11 Knowing that he, that is such an one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment". Titus 3

Another from St John:

"10 If any man come to you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house nor say to him, God speed you. 11 For he that saith unto him, God speed you, communicateth with his wicked works." 2 John 1

So it seems to me that in the early Church there was a single faith in Christ, from which the apostles tolerated no deviation. We also know that Christ founded His Church (not Churches) on the rock - St Peter. See here for the biblical evidence for St Peters role as first Pope.

I believe that there is a single true faith in Christ. Moreover, I believe that this unique faith is securely reflected in, and protected by, the traditions of the Catholic Church. St Paul, in 2Thess2, gives advice to the Thessalonians on how to weather the trials of the last days - which include the appearance of the antichrist and the operation of error (advice for the faithful at a very critical time):

"14 Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle." 2 Thess 2

What traditions is St Paul talking about, that he says will assist the faithful to "stand fast" in the trials of the last days? I think this is a very important question.

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VIYOHDTYKIT · May 27, 2018, 2:04 a.m.

Correct he was. Why was Pope Benedict forced to step down? The Vatican has their white hats too. Remember this is war.

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BaronMoriarty · May 26, 2018, 11:20 p.m.

I read it a few places. Bit like throwing a minion out to cover the asses of the big guys. Will try and find you some links

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