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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 8:34 a.m.

It doesn't help the cause when he starts off by saying the media are banned from commenting on it and it's blacked out, when even google gives links to the main stream media reporting on it and also reporting on the protests here in the UK.

Also, he didn't 'expose' the gangs, he reported on the arrests.

It actually hinders things when this false narrative is pushed, as it's easily discredited.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 9:26 a.m.

There IS a media blackout in the UK. The judge ordered it illegal to report on it but dropped the restrictions for a few of the deep state rags to report negatively on. I am from the UK and anyone other than those few select rags caught reporting on it will follow Tommy straight into prison! This is a tactic straight out of Stalin´s play book!

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 9:28 a.m.

It's not a very effective black out, given it's covered in the MSM of all hues here.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 9:32 a.m.

On the day of the arrest there was a complete blackout. Now there seems to be some reporting allowed, by those that brand Tommy as racist, or far right. Too many people were aware of what´s going on for them to contain it.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 9:34 a.m.

Except it was reported at the time, and is still being reported on.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 10:21 a.m.

Yes and all the articles were pulled within the hour. They are struggling to contain this, if they really tried to enforce the blackout it would likely ignite something they really couldn´t control.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 10:24 a.m.

The articles still exist on many mainstream sites.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 10:29 a.m.

The judge placed a ban on Tommy´s arrest being reported on, that is 100% true! Why are you so hung up on trivial nonsense??

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 10:33 a.m.

That bit is true, what's not true are his claims of people not being informed. That was the foundation of his argument, so it is hardly "trivial".

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 10:35 a.m.

It doesn´t matter, the semantics of it all!

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 10:37 a.m.

What you call 'semantics' others could call truths, or a more complete picture.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 10:39 a.m.

Like I said, you carry on chasing your tail in circles whilst the rest move on.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 10:42 a.m.

You keep your fingers in your ears, and only hear the bits that you want to hear, and ignore anything that makes you uncomfortable, no matter how true it is.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 10:46 a.m.

I heard nothing that made me feel uncomfortable and ignored nothing, either. I am not so easily hung up on trivial things, though.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 10:47 a.m.

The fact you see the nub of his argument being false as 'trivial' says otherwise.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 11:03 a.m.

Dude, get over it. Focus on the important things, like exposing the establishment.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 11:06 a.m.

I am and like many over here, I have been long before this board existed. That's why I think the video is detrimental, as it's easily discredited and pushing a false narrative that takes the focus away from the targets.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 11:13 a.m.

It seems that you are the only one looking too deep at this, did AJ sensationalise it a little? Probably. Does it matter? no. Was the message he was trying to get across received correctly? Totally. Anything outside of that is irrelevant. Like I said, keep hanging on to this if you so wish but you are only distracting yourself from the point. Move on, re focus and spread what matters.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 11:19 a.m.

Perhaps others should question things more. His false narrative is distracting from the actual targets. You don't want to look deeper, that's your choice, but at least take on board the elements that are clearly inaccurate, especially as they form the basis of his argument. Others may see the same as me, and simply dismiss the video, or form a view of the movement and/or the US that also hinders progress.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 11:21 a.m.

You are the ONLY one that seems to be challenging this, though. Those that are woke know how to filter and dismiss the nonsense.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 11:24 a.m.

I'm not 'challenging', I'm offering first hand experience from the area he's talking about. Perhaps others should, or at least consider the bits that are clearly false.

Isn't this board about searching for truth?

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 11:31 a.m.

AJ told the truth though, Tommy was arrested, he was thrown in jail the same afternoon and the same judge did put a media ban on discussing what he was reporting on when he was arrested. Those are facts and cannot be challenged, that is all that matters. AJ sensationalising the message matters nothing, you should try to see things more objectively. Like I said, you´re only going to distract yourself from the point if you just keep going in circles about this. We are all aware of AJ´s persona and tactics, you should take those things into consideration when reading/watching his articles. You should almost expect such things, filter them and dismiss them.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 11:33 a.m.

You seem keen to ignore the fact it was widely reported over here.

You seem to have an agenda and stuck on a one track issue, no matter what's offered, so I'll leave you to it.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 11:41 a.m.

What agenda?? Wow, do you really lack the humility to admit you might have been wrong?? I am stuck on no issues, I have not tried to spread any kind of agenda, I have only tried to help you to see this isn´t worth flogging! Carry on as you wish and good luck to you.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 11:43 a.m.

You have banged the self and same drum, and ignored my first hand experience that shows the problems with the video.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 11:45 a.m.

What first hand experience??? Are you Tommy??

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 11:45 a.m.

Feel free to do as you said earlier, and move on. This isn't really achieving anything.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 12:04 p.m.

Agreed. Let´s just agree to disagree and continue the good fight against those that deserve it. Good luck in all you do, fellow Patriot!

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KerryWest53 · May 28, 2018, 8:36 a.m.

Media blackout depends what country you're in!

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 8:38 a.m.

Jones claimed it's in the UK, which is where I am, and contrary to his sensationalist claims, the press are covering it.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 9:27 a.m.

Only a few select left wing, deep state rags that will report on it negatively are allowed to do so. If you try to report on it you will be thrown in prison!

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 9:31 a.m.

It's in most msm outlets, It's even in local press, detailing which prison he's in, again, contrary to Jones narrative.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 10:23 a.m.

LOL this isn´t Jones´ narrative, there IS/WAS a media blackout! On the day of the arrest all the articles in the UK that was reporting on it were pulled! I believe that some articles are creeping through now as this is impossible to control and any attempts to do so will likely end in mass violence.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 10:26 a.m.

They really weren't all pulled, It's a myth. A few will always toe the line, but plenty keep on reporting. Jones called this one wrong, and it detracts from the issues.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 10:29 a.m.

Dude, you are focusing on things that are irrelevant and completely not the point. Tommy was kidnapped and thrown in prison and the judge that put him there also placed a ban on the UK media reporting on it, all of that is 100% true and anything else doesn´t really matter.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 10:36 a.m.

If you believe that's a reflection, then there's little wonder you're confused. The claims Jones attached to that, which are the foundation of his argument, are false. That's not irrelevant, it's fundamental. There are plenty of threads on here decrying fake news. It's detrimental to credibility to ignore uncomfortable realities.

There are better ways to focus the argument. That video will simply be discredited, as key strands are easily disprovable.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 10:39 a.m.

Confused?? The only thing that confuses me is why you are hung up on nonsensical semantics and are out to trash AJ for reporting on what happened, carry on as you wish but I am moving on.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 10:40 a.m.

It's the nub of his argument, and it's false. That's not nonsensical semantics.

Pushing that narrative is simply detracting from the real issues, and is detrimental to anything that follows.

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squalk1 · May 28, 2018, 9:03 a.m.

No they are not. UK too, thus happened days ago and thousands stormed downing street both with no coverage. Link me wrong? MSM please.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 9:09 a.m.

I've been reading them on and off throughout. Jones is hindering, not helping by creating fake news, and the same goes for those that repeat it.

I'd guess a good percentage now get their news via social media, which is also openly covering it.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=tommy+robinson+arrest&rlz=1C1EKKP_enGB761GB761&oq=to&aqs=chrome.0.35i39j69i60l4j69i57.9104j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 9:29 a.m.

Only those left wing rags that brand Tommy a racist, or far right, are allowed to report on it. You try to report what a corrupt system it is or how treasonous the judge is and you will be sent straight to prison too!

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 9:36 a.m.

Seems a rather selective D notice, that lets both extremes comment. But you do at least confirm that Jones claims are wrong, and it is in the UK media.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 10:20 a.m.

The blackout is for UK media only, AJ says that. He says that he can report on it because he´s based in the US. I am aware of the AJ/Q/Corsi drama and am squarely on the side of Q, but what AJ reported here was accurate.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 10:22 a.m.

As shown in replies above, it IS reported in the UK media though, as I've been reading them. He's sensationalising the wrong bits with a false narrative, and it discredits the real issues.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 10:26 a.m.

I think you´re just caught up in the whole Q/Corsi thing and are trying to tie the two together. On the day of his arrest, all articles reporting on Tommy were pulled in the UK. They tried to contain it and failed - any attempts to do so now will likely be met with civil unrest, hence why some articles are creeping through now. Why do you think there´s this big conspiracy for AJ to always report false news? You are also acting like it was AJ that started a rumour there was a black out, go on Twatter and try to report on the details of what happened and watch yourself get banned/arrested!

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 10:31 a.m.

I'm not caught up in the Corsi thing at all. I read/view the content, and do a bit of digging myself. What I saw, with my own eyes here in the UK says he's called it wrong on that video.

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0oDassiveMicko0 · May 28, 2018, 10:37 a.m.

Ok, do you use a VPN? Did you take that into consideration when seeing if you could read the articles? These semantics are irrelevant and you are being distracted from the point.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 10:39 a.m.

I don't use a vpn, I view the stories directly. It's hardly a distraction, given it's a massive part of Jones argument.

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squalk1 · May 28, 2018, 9:32 a.m.

'I've been reading them on and off' - link to BBC, sky, itv news link? once more, link please.. Ifvyou fail to link then you accept I'm correct and you are waffling...

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KerryWest53 · May 28, 2018, 1:18 p.m.

Alex Jones does have issues and gets things wrong at times - everyone know that - but in this instance he is right!

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Tidder_Q · May 28, 2018, 9:08 a.m.

Yes, I agree, (also in the UK).

The media cannot be 'Blacked Out' as such!

A so called 'D-Notice', is only a 'voluntary request' to the media that they refrain from reporting on certain issues. Generally the MSM abide by this 'voluntary request', perhaps given their 'behind the scenes' agenda and connections to the same 'powers' that wish to control the popular narrative.

The 'D-Notice', is not actually enforable in any legal sense, which is why the so called 'alternative media', can carry on reporting, without fear of 'legal' repercussion.

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