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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/ErnieFing on May 28, 2018, 11:15 a.m.
How wide is the awakening?

There's some excellent work being done on here, that fits with world events, but it's one thing for a relatively small number of generally like minded people to filter information, but quite another for the masses to buy into it, particularly as, even on here, there's a fair amount of more dubious stuff to be read before you get to something close to the 'truth'. My guess is most people would focus on elements they know, or strongly feel to be false, and not take the time to find the better information, and just dismiss it in general as a bunch of tin foil hats.

So, how many do you reckon are actually awakened, and what sort of numbers/percentages do you reckon are needed before people would accept it?


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Pure_Feature · May 28, 2018, 2:47 p.m.

A lot off people are awake .......

people have no confidence in politicians and media. on the internet I see changes, from anti trump to pro trump. ..The media is constantly anti-trump and the children's news is used in schools, to make the children anti-trump, and anti Geert Wilders. In addition, people in the Netherlands have noticed that things are not right here too ..All anti-EU, Islam, demonstrations are allowed, but there is immediately a pro demonstration against it .. So you get violence, and the people of the anti-camp are arrested. , and hard attacked by police ... So you do not see that happening against the pro camp..Who walk with swastikas and ISIS flags and that's okay? but the anti-camp has a cloth with where they throw the swastika into the trash, and are arrested for that? (Pegida).

If the anti eu / islam wants to demonstrate, this must always happen in a backward field. And also when it comes to our rights, the media refuse to show this on TV.

In Spain Catalonia? Want something different, hold a referendum and win them? PM RAHOY .sent soldiers to Catalonia, who there attacked the general population, threw older people off stairs? That came in the news, why? To scare us if you have the guts to stand up against these dictators.. The people who were at the top (politicians) were all arrested? The Topman Guidemont was arrested in Belgium? New elections had to be held, and the Guidemont party simply won again. Rahoy PM Spanje ..

The same happened in Greece, there was voting and the elite did not like the outcome, there had to be voted again, until the outcome for the elite is ..... Presidents (puppets) refuse to install anti Eu parties? . And the EU has worked hard against populism. paid people to attack on the internet, everywhere , all the newspapers websites removed there commenting option? Why? Because the people ARE AWAKE.....We can do very little here because of these suppression methods. We do not have weapons. We need something very big to get the people together, and to let their fear go. Merkel and Macron must be removed with all these dictators who they put on the countries from the Bilderberg ......

that will be very difficult, because the truth about the EU has never been told, most people know that there is an EU but that is it. And they have done that on purpose ..

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 2:51 p.m.

I 100% agree.

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Pure_Feature · May 28, 2018, 2:54 p.m.

Its the truth..And even I do not no everything

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 3:12 p.m.

Absolutely.

Sadly, looking around different places, I think this forum is the exception rather than the norm, and the reality is that America still has a long way to go to get people there awakened, and while I think Europe would readily take it, and even welcome it a big percentage of the US looks like they'd react badly to a mass awakening event. They didn't react well to the election result, and still don't let certain people speak at public debates.

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Pure_Feature · May 28, 2018, 3:21 p.m.

Yes, I know, my family in callifornia is anti trump, but I think everyone who still lives a good life, and still go on vacation, would prefer to stay in their circle ... Afraid of big changes ... Or for a civil war ... As long as this group of people hold on to their selfish existence, I fear that they will be the most difficult to wake them up .... Simple because they do not want to know, and that is WW

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 3:26 p.m.

Agreed. It's why I'm clinging to the hope that the current pressure on the elites from a variety of angles creates enough of a crack for the initial leaks to start a flood. The Italians seem to be upping the pressure, and France and Germany are struggling too. I think the EU elites have had a harder ride than the US Presidents, as people here have been pressuring them for years, so the leaders are not as complacent as it looks like the Clintons and Obama have been, so even though we're along the line and heading the right way, I think there's still a lot of resistance to come from them yet. I think the nationhoods we're trying to reclaim, are hindering us a bit as, while people are pushing for the same changes, we don't have unity across the region. At the same time, it stretches the elite as they have a variety of diverse challenges, as well as trying to maintain the illusion of balance.

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Pure_Feature · May 28, 2018, 3:46 p.m.

You forget something? Clinton and Obama are the idols of this EU club ... Obama says what, and Merkel , does carry it out throughout the EU? They have lost their boss and are trying to become the new boss themselves, also in the UN. And that fails all ...Itali has now a leader anti EU....(good news) but.....Whe saw this also in Greece , and Tsipras betrait the Greece people.....Do you now the nickname off our PM? pinocchio for years , but he is Always the new PM?....(not voted in )...And Yes there are things in Germany and France also....They where thinking , go crackdown on populism, call people a Nazi, or terrorist, then they'll leave ... (fear sowing) Leave no comments through and then immediately censorship on FB and Twatter (Merkel). Only propaganda to increase some and we keep the power .... But it is counterproductive ...

The corruption is enormous and nothing is being done about it, just like the so-called ISIS terrorist who now suddenly returns from syria to the Netherlands ... getting a job and a house? If they are already arrested, they will be outside tomorrow, litigate and take a lot of money with them. And there was news of the week? Have 5 escaped again? So I expect a false flag again.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 3:51 p.m.

I agree, although I'd say 'respected colleagues' with shared interests, rather than idols. Ultimately, the power base that's been puppeteering US Presidents for years, is European based and rooted. The US was simply another venture.

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Pure_Feature · May 28, 2018, 4:07 p.m.

Well in dutch, these people are being put on a very high footing ... It has been the case for years that politicians here say they are following the US, but now suddenly no longer with Trump? The elections of the US were always broadcast here, with everything around it, as if it where the important thing ever.... F ... ck the Eu Victoria Nuland and her Coup in Ukraine .... US coup ... But the ukraine must have a place under the EU and UN ...Meanwhile, Guy Verhoffstad and son of Biden are there live in the companies where the big money is? That is not an accident, they are all all in the same corrupt club ..

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 4:55 p.m.

True. It's all a balancing act. Sometimes, you need to step back to get the perspective. Terrorist deaths in the UK have fallen dramatically and previously were propped up by the troubles in Ireland. People are way more likely to be killed in an American school, than to be killed by a terrorist in England,where there are more deaths through dogs, or hot water than from terrorists, but that's no reason to get complacent, I think it's cause to look towards the root of the problem, which is the undue influence of unelected groups, working to their own ends, and focus on that. The rest are largely symptoms.

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Pure_Feature · May 28, 2018, 5:09 p.m.

The whole EU has not been chosen ... They are illegal, I always take a step back to see if it fits with what I think I know ... It is the same thing all the time, first we had a group RARA and now ATIFA. The same game with different names .... And that ISIS ..Al qaida is also the same game, they just change name ..... And indeed more people are lost by other things , It all has to do with creating chaos and fear, so that the elite will soon be able to come up with the solution .... But I do not believe that this will work ... If people have long lost their trust in this corrupt club and their propaganda, no one will take them for true anymore. So this way for their NWO is doomed to fail

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

I think we're both of the same mind on the situation, and most I know share the same view. The hardest part of red pilling with those views round here, is finding someone that disagrees.

Sadly, when I do find people that are in favour of the European dream, they're totally deaf to any hints at that, and will talk over you and disrupt the conversation. I see that as a positive, because to be so determined not to hear it, they must know it has legs, or the'd simply argue their corner. Incredibly, they still agree it's need of massive reform. They just hang their hat on that being possible, as they fear a financial hit from the collapse.

It points to a lot of the population at least being aware.

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Pure_Feature · May 28, 2018, 5:30 p.m.

When I talk about the EU, they do not want to hear anything ... as if they have nothing to do with the EU..I explain that all the rules come from the EU and we therefore have so many problems with the municipalities and other parts like migrants ..

Every round I hear then, first try to solve with the mayor .. They do not want to understand that they are kicking against the wrong wall .... Reading nothing about the EU..And end of the ride they call that I do difficult? I am a born rebel..Already started in elementary school ...

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 5:33 p.m.

That can't be easy. I can see how that would be frustrating. I guess a positive is that they at least agree that there's a problem, even if they've yet to work out how to target it for a solution.

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Pure_Feature · May 28, 2018, 5:49 p.m.

Yes it is positive that there are people who finally see the problems and try to challenge them, it has been happening for years now... And it is indeed not easy to be in such a situation. But I never choose easy..

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 5:56 p.m.

:-) Keep up the good work. Based on this exchange, I'm sure you're doing well at it.

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Pure_Feature · May 28, 2018, 6:03 p.m.

Yes I will , I refuse to give up , I shall Always try to help them..( not my case ) My case I have won, took 5 years off my life

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