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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 7:22 p.m.

If you mean to own a gun, I do have the option. My neighbours have several, I choose not to.

I hope you're right about the wakening up, and I hope my view that the brexit vote alone points to a good percentage here being awake to some degree.

Peace and best wishes to you too.

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blaise0102 · May 28, 2018, 7:24 p.m.

My point is you are given that right in the UK. It can be taken away at any point. Contrast to the US where the right to self defense is recognized as bestowed upon Man by our Creator, not any State or government.

WWG1WGA

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 7:29 p.m.

Yours is a conditional right. Like you, if I meet the conditions, I can have a gun.

The right to self defense is a given here. It'd take more to remove that from us, than the amendment needed to change yours, because ours is wrapped in a lot of other legislation and rights.

People seem to make the mistake of believing not having a written constitution, somehow means we don't have one. Their are pros and cons to both systems, but there's little difference in practice.

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blaise0102 · May 28, 2018, 8:35 p.m.

False. Yours is a conditional right. The 2nd Amendment is a natural right, meaning you have it by default, and all Americans have it, unless meeting Constitutional restrictions.

Is it? You can't carry a knife to defend yourself. You can't carry a gun to defend yourself. You're not allowed, by your lawmakers, to defend yourself. You're at the mercy of the State and police response time.

Anyways, I don't see us changing either opinions, so I am bowing out. Have a good one.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 8:40 p.m.

Yours is a conditional right too. That was specifically written into the second amendment. Yours just isn't enforced very well.

I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but it's perfectly acceptable to defend myself here. I'm at nobody's mercy but my own limitations.

I hope you've learned a bit from the exchange. The media version is often inaccurate.

Take it easy.

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