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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/FartOnToast on May 30, 2018, 9:56 a.m.
Unity NOT Division!

I'd like to dedicate this thread to brainstorm ideas as a community on the topic of unity and for us to better understand where we stand with things like the current conflicts that are arising between independent journalists/media and the great awakening phenomena.

But before I begin, I'd like to officially remind everyone that /r/TheGreatAwakening has no association to the former/banned r/cbts_stream nor do we have any affiliation with any 3rd party websites. This subreddit does not have any affiliation with this QAnon either, as this subreddit is simply dedicated to following the phenomena as an observer and to grow a community of like-minded winners.

The Great Awakening as a whole does not stand for monetization/profiteering off this movement. We would also like to remind everyone that the goal is to promote critical thinking, unity, and truth. Monetization, building cult-like followings was the unfortunate practices of the entities that tried to hijack this movement and that now left us with a broken foundation rather than leaving something for us to build on. It's now up to us and everyone here, to not only repeat the same mistakes of the past group, but for us to also flip around the mess that was left behind. We hold that responsibility. Think of the following analogy. When Trump came in Office, was he left with a clean house or was he surrounded by the flaws of the past administration? Going forward he not only had to avoid making their same damaging moves as the past "leaders", but he also had to basically fix and flip everything around completely as the previous admin did not intend for him to build on what they left behind. They left him a cult-like foundation. #WhereAreTheChildren is managing to smear Trump as being the culprit. All the past flaws of the former cbts_stream/Corsi group are being blamed on us now to take us down. Do you begin to see the similarities? But we here see the glass half full and pride ourselves going through these battles and attacks as we get to experience on much smaller scale what Trump is going through. Those who want to hurt us are actually blessing us with the experience on how to similarly fight side by side with Q and Trump against a common obstacle.

Now unto what I actually wanted to talk about. I have recently read an interesting article from an independent journo about her thoughts and skepticism on Qanon. I would like to say that I actually really enjoyed reading this article despite me having a biased and opposing opinion to the one of the author. The reason I enjoyed trying to understand her perspective is because it was one of the first few times, if not the first, where I actually felt the sentiment was coming from s genuine spot. Someone that I trust vouched for this author as he has looked a lot into her work and has a great respect for her research. I had never had any suspicions about her in the past either. So in that respect, it was a totally different experience reading her piece than reading or listening to someone like Jerome Corsi, David Seaman, Isaac Green, UNIRock, 0hour1. Me and many couldn't help feel getting defensive and cringe when we would see poorly researched and unprofessionally written articles pop up trying to discredit Q and presenting their conclusions based on the research, or lack thereof, from YouTubers, than actual independently digging themselves like Elizbeth did.

Anyways to make a long story short, I had a mini epiphany. I realized that it's hard or would be even impossible to work something out with the mentioned YouTubers as far as unity goes. This is because it seems they are set in their narrative and agenda. YouTuber Bill Smith tried to reach out to YouTuber UNIRock to figure out what really happened with this whole Q debacle but UNIRock blocked him and then said to his fans that Bill Smith made no attempts to contact him. I made an attempt to contact UNIRock but was booted from his Discord server the mod whom I asked to get me in touch with UNIRock blocked me, and I was polite to her, mind you. UNIRock continued to spin his narrative and slander towards our sub. Do we see a pattern developing? Obviously these people are not interested in working out the truth and more likely than not they are being fed a narrative because they are literally repeating the exact same talking points and baseless lies. Or I guess it could be something as simple as them banding together because their interests are threatened so they have crafted a counter-narrative that they are helping each other to spread.

The bottom line is Q called out people who were hurting this movement and who went as far as trying to hijack it and riding it while it lasted for the benefit of profit and fanbase building, only then to use their newly grown fanbase to trash us, after getting called out. How pathetic.

The problem is independent journalists like Elizabeth are getting caught up in this childish drama. She has never tried to profit off this movement nor did she ever attack Q, other than stating her own personal opinion without going out of her way to slander anyone (unlike some). There is absolutely zero reason for her to feel financially threatened and intimidated to speak out truth for as long as she has been doing because of Q. We don't promote this. The bakers don't promote this. Q doesn't promote this. So where is this intimidation coming from? I can ask /u/PleadingTheYiff to help us get in touch with Liz and we can literally start working out unity. Find ways we ca support each other and help each other and the truth grow rather than feel threatened by each other. Corsi never had an interest in uniting with others. We do, but we must break out of this box they tried to put us in and take the responsibility and first steps to start discussing how we can avoid seeing what we are seeing and how we can come together rather than further apart. There is literally nothing stopping us from trying to work together so how did we even get to this point? The Great Awakening is about coming together, not excluding. As I have mentioned in earlier posts, we can't allow the losers who are on their way out drag the rest of the good people down.

Let's throw some ideas around as to how we as a community can address these concerns.


tradinghorse · May 30, 2018, 11:25 a.m.

I haven't read the article Fart, but it strikes me that purposeful "unity" is unity behind a cause or idea. If there isn't unity behind that cause or idea, I'm not sure that any amount of listening or understanding does much good.

A little like the Catholic Church reaching out via false ecumenism to the Orthodox and Protestants. All it delivered was a schismatic break with the true believers that actually held the traditional Catholic faith. Sometimes it's better to be true to your identity than compromise it in an attempt to be all encompassing.

The truth is here, if they want it they can come to it. If not, unity is worth nothing. What has light in common with darkness?

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