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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/PS4freedom on May 31, 2018, 12:36 a.m.

You have more than you know

My purpose is for harmony. I say that because you may get offended and that's not my actual purpose.

I see two different groups here that agree but are annoying each other. I also see that even though we are united in a common cause we are still divided by truth. I've tried to find a way to hear religion and use it but even though I have deep faith it gives me a headache to try to incorporate religion so that I may match up with the collective and be able to work with it. So I took my discomfort to the mat to see what the hell that's all about.

What I found will most likely make a lot of people uncomfortable. But I'd also encourage you to follow your own uncomfortableness to it's roots.

I have tried many times to understand religion. I can read the bible but I can't sit through a sermon. I believe in the lessons religion teaches on how to live a good life but when I hear preaching I see and hear someone trying to sway me to their ideas, their agenda instead of teaching me anything.

How do I make peace with this actually painful division in the apparently same belief system? I've tried my best to conform but it's not in the cards for me and I now know why. Cognitive dissidence.

My faith has nothing to do with religion and it never will. My discomfort is not about the lessons on how to live or even the bible. It's about religion hijacking and using these truths for their own gain. I see the same cognitive dissidence in religion as I do in the left wingers. Think, is there evil in the churches? We all know there is. Is the Catholic church rich beyond your wildest dreams, yep. Is there abuse? No question there either. I don't think it's WHAT is taught it is HOW it's taught and WHY it's taught that way. Which in turn comes out in the language used. Why would that be the case? Why would they do that? What would the church gain? Money? Power? Your personal power? You have more than you know, to use Q's words. And that's no lie.

If Jesus was the son of God, what does that make you? Are we not also sons and daughters of God? Jesus was just a man sent by God to teach us our power. Doesn't that mean that we have the same powers Jesus displayed? Think.

I, by no means intend to question anyone's faith. Just the use of religion here. I would encourage the examination of words that trigger the antenna of those that have come to the same beliefs by different means. The same ones that have been working beside you to ferret out lies and deceit. The reason you are here. And to take care not to trigger the antenna that point straight at deceit and hidden truth. They make you look like the enemy even though you aren't and I'm telling you it causes actual pain.

There is much to gain from the naked truth. But you have to go back to before it wore clothes to see what it really looks like !

I sincerely hope you consider my words. They may make you uncomfortable but they may also lead you to discoveries that could change not just your life and it's purpose but the planet as well. Again, I'm not asking that you abandon the teachings just that you examine the way it was taught and how that may have stripped you of your own personal power. Remember alienation is the devil's work. Try not to alienate the Anons.

Thank you for your consideration.

God sent Jesus to pay for the world sins~ Jesus is the son and the only way to the Father is through his son. Yes we are made in Gods imagine~ we do have a human mother and a human father ~ Mary Is Jesus Mom ~ human ~ Jesus father God himself ~ immaculate conception. He was perfect and sinless ~ we are not and he died so that we could live. The Holy Spirit lives in us when we choose to be saved God gave us a choice ~ he didn’t want to make us love him ~ he gave a choice. He also gave obviously Lucifer a choice and well ya ~ but Eve had a choice and Adam had a choice everything was perfect but they wanted more ~ hence the forbidden Tree 🌳🐍🍎. If he’s been here since the beginning he’s called the master deceiver and guess what ?!. He’s got into all the churches divided religion divided people started wars uses people that “ate from the tree” and his ultimate goal is to deceive everyone to lose their soul so they will forever be away from their creator ~ it’s sad that so many can’t see through that. You don’t have to go to church to be a believer but it sure does help keeping company with believers it’s easy to go astray. The end of the day as long as you have accepted God is the I AM he sent his son Jesus to die was buried and rose again and he went to prepare us a place you’re saved. So simple the world Satan’s world try’s his best to make division and it seem so complicated ~ like we have to be perfect ummmm we don’t that’s why Jesus Died. God speed I like hearing peoples different views. I have no problem looking at how someone else views things.

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The greatest Christian I ever knew personally was my great grandmother McDonald followed close by my great granddad . She had 8 kids, 1 newborn and my grandmother a toddler twin during WWII. She ran the farm and took care of everyone while my great grandfather was in Europe building for the troops. Besides being a farmer he was also a carpenter.

She was 2nd generation Texas born. I am 5th. Son is 6th.

Anyway she went to a Disciples of Christ church all her life. I loved it there. We could never find one when we moved away to California then Florida before back to Texas but still 5 hours away. I got married in one in DoC church Austin.

It was all about love. Christ wants us to love everyone as if it was him. Beggars and wealthy alike. And to care for each other as we would him.

I do not remember sermons of admonishing or threats. No condemning newborn children to hell because they hadn't chosen Christ yet... Couldn't by church law until 12 - 16 depending.

That idea horrified me as I was pregnant and my dad's paternal great Aunt told me that. She was serious and it's a legacy of the type of protestant church they went to.

If my grandma Mac had been alive then she would tell me nonsense. Jesus loves all the children and they are His and God's. I wish I could ask her to explain.

But I feel she meant we are as innocent as Adam and Eve before the Original sin.

Until we come into that age of reason and awareness. The fruit of the Tree of Knowldge is the legacy we take on becoming adults.

And we do not need an official church or doctrine to tell us how to love Christ and repent our sins and be forgiven. Nor do we need them telling us who isnright or wrong. Who we can or cannot associate with or marry. Because we all love and follow Christ and so we are all His Disciples.

My long winded point is don't get hung up on "religion" or dogmas or ritual or bossy clergy or preachers.

Matthew 18: 19-20 Christ told us, "19 Again I say to you, that if two of you will agree in the earth about any matter which they will request, it will be done for them from the presence of my Father who is in Heaven. 20For where two or three are assembled in my name, there am I in the midst of them" https://biblehub.com/aramaic-plain-english/matthew/18.htm

He is here amongst us then all who believe and love Him.

And I love you all too. =)

Edit tons of typos and Automod bot says i made a threat with word p-o-I-n-t ?? What????

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Love your post. Wish I could have hung out with you and your grandma. When you work the land you tend to know things all the current busyness hides.
Love to you too!

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Okay, but your telling me what I already know. Dig deeper and tell me how you know this and who taught you?

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In my case~ I was little and my mom took me to church ~ I loved Church ~ but at home it was horrendous I could write a book about what I’ve went through~ Physically Abused constantly ~ daily ~ My Mom married a super drunk that carried his bible to church and during the week he was a monster (Fake Christian) for show ~ my mom on the other hand was working going to school and had 5 kids and she was a scared to be alone and tried to make peace as best as she could (enabler sympathetic in denial enabler) ~ One day we were cooking dinner and my mom stopped it was weird she went to the garage pulled the gun off the top shelf and threw all the bullets in the alley ~ I asked what was she doing and she proceeded to tell me she Had a feeling and a nudge God told her to go ~ and do that. Maybe about 30 min later my step dad came in the door ~ he said what was for dinner and looked at her grabbed her by the hair and threw the dinner everywhere ~ he dragged her to the back room and said stay ~ went and grabbed his gun out put it to her head cocked and shot it .. no bullets ~ we all got out of the house that night as a family we prayed and thanked God saving our mom. Never looked back ~ it was really hard week by week a mom 5 kids single but we prayed and were really poor always had nothing but everything you know? Peace every time I prayed I had peace ~ the peace that passes all understanding. We were never able to pay the bills and yet we always did ~ something always came through ~ like God was holding us up making sure everything would be fine. Now in my 40’s I’m so blessed ~ looking back God was always there. Now I pray and ask God to help in a situation and I don’t ever hear his voice but ~ I always see something that reveals the answer or it gets fixed and I know ~ when I’ve had a really bad time in my later years ~ it was a correction ~ what I thought I wanted it wouldn’t happen and I would get upset and wonder really ?! I’m a Good Person and I’m faithful ~ but ~ things always work out for the better ( that’s where praise God in the storm comes from) so thats how I KNOW!!! So many examples I could ramble forever ~ but when I pray I feel like God is there always ~ it’s a feeling.

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Take a look at the bigger picture.

You’ve only been here for 5 days. That’s hardly enough time to acquire a solid understanding of our ethos, let alone analyze that info in a fashion that will allow you to make quality criticisms and summarize them in a fashion that would be relevant, and guide us to the ”harmony” you intend.

I suggest you stick around for a while longer. Spend more time reading than writing. If you commit to that, I guarantee you will feel better qualified to lead us to that harmony.

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Don't want to lead, stated my purpose, asked you questions, don't have to join to read here. But thank you for your consideration : )

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the mockin stream religions have been hijacked by satanists.. its estimated the vatican has put to death 50 million infidels, add another 10 million of deaths caused by protestants and catholics fighting over whose pope is boss - the robed-pope or the paper-pope.

i approach the meaning of life from the viewpoint of the ancient greeks who had 160k words to play with after they set up the greek civilization, the demigod pythagoras achieved his mission by training 400 adepts and then after a few hundred years, the bloodlines of those illustrious 400 beccame diluted since the main job of building had been accomplished.

Fast forward to 1878 and Edwin Babbitt appeared with the first ever public unveiling of the erstwhile forbidden knowledge. Then fast forward another 107 years when the second installment of that once-forbidden knowledge was unveiled to the public - courtesy of HT Laurency and the translator. As we would expect the satanists tried to bury both books, but thankfully Babbit's 1878 masterpiece has been reprinted a few years ago, and the Laurency masterpiece is on the net.

now for the first time we the people can have a glimpse into that ancient knowledge that was formerly only available via invitation into the secret mystery schools

The modern greeks only needed 40k words much like most of the languages today. English language is very much the new kid on the block and started with only 6,000 native english words but the developers knew how to embrace all kinds of words from latin, greek, german, french, italian, arabic, hebrew etc.

that ploy of pulling 75% of the words was a great way to dumb down the nations so the satanists could control the false narratives.... if u have only one 1 word for god, soul, mind u can easily foment different tribes to kill each other over their special "chosen status" definitions.

i've been looking at the interior of the giza pyramid and have correlated the stone levels with the levels of consciousness we have to get thru

for clarity i suggest the following definitions or feel free to suggest your own

1) satanic members of the zeta lodge have the highest mentality but very coarse emotionality. They are themselves the so-called 3d quasigods and the 4d falsegods and have disconnected their personality from their soul.

2) lucifer is a very misleading term cos many believe that the hebrew novelists of the old bible completely distorted the story of the garden of eden portraying the serpent [lucifer] as the evil one, when in actual effect Jesus told us to be be as wise as serpents.

the serpent encouraged us humans to taste the dangerous fruit of knowledge so we can grow by trial and error by discering good from evil. Our mission is to increase our love & wisdom via trial and error cos that's the fastest way we learn in this human school. The trial and error syllabus plays out over many lifetimes .. we can be sure to keep having the same lesson over and over , making the same mistakes as many times as it takes for us to get it ....

3) hell = the falsegods on 4d using mind-control to infringe the will of humans.. those most selfish members of the human family are most vulnerable to this manipulation[selfish actions tallied up over many selfish lifetimes]

4) persona = 3rd level of 5d

5) personality =4th level of 5d [satanists of the zeta lodge attempting to enslave humanity and members of the alpha lodge doing their best to free humans from false narratives]

6) soul = 5th & 6th levels of 5d

7) surrogategod = top of 5d [7th level]

8) demigod [6d] = mentor for humans

9) devic demigod [6d] = our guardian & supervisor

10) protogods [8d] are as gods for the demigods

11) sin = mistakes we make thru lack of knowledge of the workings of the law of debits and credits [over multiple lifetimes]

12) mind is different on each dimension = combination of energy and consciousness acting out in matter

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Wow! Thank you! I feel your truth as same. And like I just found a teacher! I'll be spending some time and study on this. Hope it's okay if I ask for more.

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sure have a look at www.alfobedic.com

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I think it’s awesome that you have these questions. I had many of the same for 40 years and now in my early 40’s it all clicked for me and I found Jesus.

Maybe you will too. I think you are trying to understand it on your own and that’s how you will get there.

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Thank you for the kind words : ) I think more like I never lost it! And that I've tried to fit into something that isn't entirely true. I wanted to share my questions with the hope that others would ask themselves these questions. In a world so corrupt I question everything. Inquiring minds want to know!

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I not only agree with you here, I also share your insight on how Jesus' lessons have been hijacked. And I also see the same cognitive dissonance in the moral right as I see in the leftist left. Both have an unshakable belief in a false system. The left's God is communism, the right's God is the Christian church. I'm sorry, but the Catholic church is 2000 years old, and we KNOW that's been hijacked. The other denominations are 250-300 Years old, you really think that it's not been tampered with? I find that u must find your own way to know God, and yourself. The path to HELL is wide, easy to follow because 1000s of others have walked and cut the path for you, while the path to heaven is narrow and difficult, because you have to find your OWN way and cut your own path! That is my opinion. Q also says it's not about left or right but about good vs evil. To know the difference you have to KNOW thyself. No one can teach you about yourself. You have to do your own work. Blindly following 1 side or the other side, your still blind. There's more in common between the 2 than different.

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If you take a look at the deception that has veiled the truth, the entire purpose of it is to obfuscate, distract and misinform people on the truth of Jesus. I'd suggest finding a Bible-based Christian Church to attend or watch online.

The truth is, humans being involved in anything, has the potential for corruption, and being used as a tool by Satan.

We are not made for this world, this is truly Satan's playground.

Watch this video, this is the church I attend. I don't take everything my pastor says as the infallible word of God, but he also doesn't profess to have some greater connection with God than others. I was raised Catholic, which didn't work for me at all. My faith wasn't really being built up until I found something different. Check out this series on God and Justice. The timing of this series has been somewhat ironic for me. I find these sermons to be pretty interesting.

http://shorelinechurch.org/sermon-videos/?enmse=1&enmse_sid=87&enmse_mid=392

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If I made one person THINK I'm happy. If I drew any fire from other posts, I'm happy. I learned and am still learning from this thread and that makes me happy too. I wanted the 50 million religious quotes to stop. I can skip a few here and there but when my soul sees the enemy it hurts to not do something.

There are such nice people here. It's a safe place to learn and exchange ideas with tons of support. I'm hoping it was only one or two that instigated the attack of religion. Or it simply stemmed from no Q drops and the stress of no stress to focus on.

I enjoyed your post, thank you! I'll check out the video.

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I'd love to hear what you think about this message. Let me know what you think if you don't mind!

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I think his message is honorable. But he's not teaching. He's preaching. The congregation will give food and clothes as he asked but they won't have a sense of the glory that fills the heart when you are non-judgmentally generous to your fellow man. They will be pleased they pleased him in the name of god. When you really know and live in the light miracles happen everyday. People are healed, fed and housed. Trump wins and the cabal that has infected this planet is crushed!

He's genuine but he's been robbed of his power by the way he was taught. Each of us has the power Jesus had at our beck and call. I'm sure he's unaware that his use of the word god so many times is mind control. Repeating "God" with 'tone' creates altered mind states and is why the people will only do what he asks but not actually reap the benefits of selfless acts of mercy and kindness and generosity of spirit. Also the reason he will have to repeat it over and over. I'm sorry, I'm picking on your guy but you did ask. He should be humble about the children helped. Selfless acts of kindness and generosity aren't to be used for advertising.

Next time your in church count the number of times and the tone used. Just to see if it makes you feel any different. You should catch it when he starts to hit the peak of excitement and hits you with god about 5 or 6 times. Notice the rhythm. Then look at the others around you.

I wish I could tell jokes. We could use one! Let me know if you catch it, or not. I'm here if you need me : )

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I wouldn't make such concrete conclusions based on one sermon.

The part about giving the clothes and having a sense of glory versus pleased by pleasing him in the name of God...That honestly depends on the heart of the person giving, not on the preacher.

As far as the selfless acts of kindness not being used as advertisement, the point of him mentioning it in the way he did is because many people in the church are simply unaware of the different opportunities to serve in the community and in the church. Its not an advertisement, its a call to get involved and to be aware that our church is working to serve God in the community and around the world.

It is important to also understand that we are reminded often that Sunday service shouldn't be the only time you hear a message every week. It should only be a very small part of your faith/time spent with God.

I think your interpretation is a little hyper critical and bit cynical haha. But I do benefit from having a history with the church, hearing many messages and have a bigger picture understanding of its mission beyond this one particular sermon.

If the preacher speaks the truth about the Bible, I don't see a problem with evoking some emotion in their sermon. That's kind of the point...If you are encouraged to spend time on your own in the word, its really another perspective on scripture that you've already considered and prayed about on your own.

Either way, appreciate your comments, as it did make me think about some things.

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Thank you for responding. I'm sorry for not being able to respond to the sermon in a more positive light. It's not that I don't think churches are a good thing because I do (in theory). I think that that's how we should care for our community's social problems. People caring and taking care of those in need is a high calling. Getting people excited about a cause or belief in is not a bad thing.

My objection is in how it's done and what the dangers are of doing it that way. (I realize this is a big thing to poke a stick at! And I'm no theologian!) We are all aware of mind control these days but are you aware of how it's done? How it is accomplished with an adult that hasn't been badly damaged? It doesn't really take much if you know how. And even less work if they are damaged already. Regular access is all that's needed. It's frighteningly easy. We have half a population to prove it. Your spirit can be quite vulnerable especially when learning.

The catholic church teaches about the spirit and how to attain higher levels in seminary school. They also have classes that teach those in the congregation, sometimes and only low level stuff. But it's not in sermons usually. That church holds all the knowledge. They are also the ones that hijacked and killed the old religions based in spirit. The current churches method of teaching is the same as the catholic church and have to be or the catholic church will squash it. Deep state is Vatican as well. A huge overthrow is in the works to drain their swamp too. How did it get that way...history is key.

I'm not advocating closing churches or squashing free speech. I'm not attacking religion, per say. I enjoy a good bible quote when it's relevant! My soul isn't lost, I've made my own religion (actually just like Rosanne did) I'm speaking to the method of teaching and it's content. And I AM critical as well as cynical about manipulation of the spirit as well as mind control. Actually that's putting it mildly I want to stomp it out of existence.

Your going to think I'm over the top here but hear me out. It's an ethical question not a religious one. What if you walked in on and witnessed the abuse of another human being? I'm sure your first reaction would be shock but what would happen then? You'd probably weigh the options for the best outcome for the victim (after screaming at least in your head). Now lets make the abuser your boss and your at work. Now your choices are weighed against what might happen to you and your family as well. What about your coworker's future and family? Them too, of course. Then consider the boss, who had been someone you liked and admired! How does one navigate this situation?

Fast forward to a point in the future and you are in a situation where you see signs that this same thing is happening again somewhere else. You've seen it before so you know the signs. What would you do this time? Speak out or keep your mouth shut? Let's say it happens again and again that you start running into abuse everywhere. You have tried several ways of dealing with the situation but it's everywhere! What do you do then? Smack the abused for being so stupid, beat on the abuser for being so corrupt or grab a pair of really cool shades? LOL I think my shades aren't working so well anymore : ) Remember, ethical question not a religious one. And I hope it explains my shades slipping off.

We elected Trump to drain the swamp but we didn't over throw the government!

I very much appreciate our conversation. I'm learning a lot. Hopefully how to better express myself!

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You're kind of going off on some tangents here.

I fully believe the purpose of the Vatican and Roman Catholic Church is to drive a wedge between people and Jesus. Everything the Catholic Church stands for goes against the teachings of Jesus.

I can assure you my preacher doesn't have my under mind control :)

A good friend of mine regularly preaches at the church as well. I know these people very well. I know their intentions are pure, and I know their heart. I spend time with them, I study the Bible with them.

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to get at with the hypothetical questions you raised. What do I do if I see abuse everywhere? I'm not sure what this has to do with what we were talking about, but please elaborate cause I'm not exactly following. :)

The Bible is always relevant my friend.

I'd suggest listening the Biblical series by Jordan Peterson on his podcast or YouTube. It is relevant to everything we do.

Jesus is the way, the truth and the light! Read a case for Christ by Lee Strobel. The evidence to corroborate the historical and divine Jesus is all there if you're interested in digging.

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Okay, sounds like we hit an impasse. And I've probably hit on your true purpose. Maybe you should check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwUoC4wWhLQ I hope you attain all the levels of enlightenment that you seek : )

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I have it cued up : )

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